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  • Londmen
    PCHF Member
    • Feb 2023
    • 12

    #1

    Games Crash On Launch

    Hey, I’ve run into quite a bad problem. I updated my GPU drivers yesterday to prepare for Hogwarts Legacy but couldn’t launch it. I’ve also noticed that this is also the case with games such as Apex Legends and Overwatch 2. HL and OW2 won’t even show more than a black screen and Apex shows me the first 2 seconds of loading. However I tried Valheim, Monster Hunter Rise and The Witcher 3, which all worked with no problem.
    This is everything I did prior to finding out about my problem and what I did to try and solve it.
    Before:
    [ul]
    [li]Downloaded the latest NVIDIA drivers.[/li][li]Installed them but got an error message, still it completed the install(I’m not sure if I uninstalled the old drivers with DDU beforehand but let’s say I didn’t)[/li][li]I rebooted and tried to open Hogwarts Legacy to no avail.[/li][/ul]
    After I tried:
    [ul]
    [li]Uninstalling drivers with DDU, reinstalling both the new, old and even the driver that released in between those but still the same issue.[/li][li]Disk Cleanup.[/li][li]/scfscannow.[/li][li]Updated Windows 11 as far as I could.[/li][li]Uninstalled & Reinstalled HL.[/li][li]Used Restoro to try finding a problem.[/li][li]Used HD Sentinel but no issues were found.[/li][li]Tried reinstalling Microsoft Visual C++.[/li][li]Tried disabling Firewall.[/li][li]Did a double uninstall of drivers with DDU to try and remove all residual files.[/li][li]Tried disabling XMP.[/li][li]Tried disabling the slight OC I have on my GPU.[/li][li]Tried finding some config file in HL directory that people said could help if changed but couldn’t find.[/li][li]Tried going back to an old restore point but the oldest ones were made today.[/li][/ul]
    Drivers I Tried: 528.49(the one that got me the issue), 528.24, 527.56(the one I started with).
    Specs:
    Asus Rog Strix 3080TI
    i7 12700k
    32gb RAM
    ~35gb free space where the games are located(all of the above are on the same drive except Valheim and MH Rise)
    1000w PSU
    Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4
    2 monitors

    Thanks for any suggestions!
  • phillpower2
    PCHF Administrator
    • Sep 2016
    • 15209

    #2
    Can you post the brand and model name or number of the power supply.

    Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

    To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

    In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

    In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

    Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.

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    • Londmen
      PCHF Member
      • Feb 2023
      • 12

      #3
      Here you go! And thanks. * this should be my PSU: NZXT C1000 1000W


      Originally posted by phillpower2
      Can you post the brand and model name or number of the power supply.

      Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

      To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

      In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

      In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

      Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.

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      • phillpower2
        PCHF Administrator
        • Sep 2016
        • 15209

        #4
        Power Profile
        Active power scheme: [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]High performance

        Change the Windows Power Plan to Balanced, Ultra and High Performance are a form of overclocking that is known to cause stability and overheating issues, the setting should only be used for gaming type notebooks that have a discrete GPU that needs the extra power.
        Originally posted by Londmen
        ~35gb free space where the games are located(all of the above are on the same drive except Valheim and MH Rise)
        The main reason why we ask for a Speccy report is because it can tell us so much so that we do not need to ask you, the below confirms our suspicions, just highlighting the most important drive that is low on free storage space;
        Partition 2
        Partition ID: Disk #1, Partition #2
        [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Disk Letter: C:
        File System: NTFS
        Volume Serial Number: AC62744E
        Size: 231 GB
        Used Space: 220 GB (95%)
        [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Free Space: 11.1 GB (5%)

        See my canned info below;

        For Windows to be able to run efficiently and to be able to update you need to have between 20 and 25% of the partition or drive available on a HDD and an SSD between 10 and 15% as free storage space at all times, if you don`t you risk Windows becoming corrupt or not being able to update which puts you at risk of malware attack.

        Data only storage devices should not be allowed to get any lower than 10% of free storage space of the full capacity of the drive/partition on the drive, this also to avoid data corruption.

        [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Please note that storage devices can physically fail if the amount of free storage space is allowed to drop below the required 10 or 20/25% minimum.

        Uninstall as many unused programs, games, videos and music files as you can and get yourself another means of backing up to, post back when you have between 20 and 25% free storage space on the C: drive/partition and we can go from there.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]

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        • Londmen
          PCHF Member
          • Feb 2023
          • 12

          #5
          Originally posted by phillpower2
          Change the Windows Power Plan to Balanced, Ultra and High Performance are a form of overclocking that is known to cause stability and overheating issues, the setting should only be used for gaming type notebooks that have a discrete GPU that needs the extra power.

          The main reason why we ask for a Speccy report is because it can tell us so much so that we do not need to ask you, the below confirms our suspicions, just highlighting the most important drive that is low on free storage space;

          See my canned info below;

          For Windows to be able to run efficiently and to be able to update you need to have between 20 and 25% of the partition or drive available on a HDD and an SSD between 10 and 15% as free storage space at all times, if you don`t you risk Windows becoming corrupt or not being able to update which puts you at risk of malware attack.

          Data only storage devices should not be allowed to get any lower than 10% of free storage space of the full capacity of the drive/partition on the drive, this also to avoid data corruption.

          [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Please note that storage devices can physically fail if the amount of free storage space is allowed to drop below the required 10 or 20/25% minimum.

          Uninstall as many unused programs, games, videos and music files as you can and get yourself another means of backing up to, post back when you have between 20 and 25% free storage space on the C: drive/partition and we can go from there.
          [/COLOR]
          [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]
          I’ll clear up some space then, thanks for the help! I’ll let you know if I need help once that is done.[/color]

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          • Londmen
            PCHF Member
            • Feb 2023
            • 12

            #6
            Originally posted by phillpower2
            Change the Windows Power Plan to Balanced, Ultra and High Performance are a form of overclocking that is known to cause stability and overheating issues, the setting should only be used for gaming type notebooks that have a discrete GPU that needs the extra power.

            The main reason why we ask for a Speccy report is because it can tell us so much so that we do not need to ask you, the below confirms our suspicions, just highlighting the most important drive that is low on free storage space;

            See my canned info below;

            For Windows to be able to run efficiently and to be able to update you need to have between 20 and 25% of the partition or drive available on a HDD and an SSD between 10 and 15% as free storage space at all times, if you don`t you risk Windows becoming corrupt or not being able to update which puts you at risk of malware attack.

            Data only storage devices should not be allowed to get any lower than 10% of free storage space of the full capacity of the drive/partition on the drive, this also to avoid data corruption.

            [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Please note that storage devices can physically fail if the amount of free storage space is allowed to drop below the required 10 or 20/25% minimum.

            Uninstall as many unused programs, games, videos and music files as you can and get yourself another means of backing up to, post back when you have between 20 and 25% free storage space on the C: drive/partition and we can go from there.
            [/COLOR]
            [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]
            I’ve now changed my power plan and freed up more space on the C: drive. from 11gb>47gb free storage. I will be attempting to solve my problem meanwhile but probably to no avail, so what would you recommend me to try doing now? [/color]

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            • phillpower2
              PCHF Administrator
              • Sep 2016
              • 15209

              #7
              Post a new Speccy url for us + let us know how things have been since you changed the power plan and freed up the space.

              Can I ask that you do not quote every reply as we have to read the full post to make sure nothing gets missed, thanks.

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              • Londmen
                PCHF Member
                • Feb 2023
                • 12

                #8
                In a bizzare turn of events, overnight I’m guessing, my C: drive went from 47gb down to 10gb free space. No clue how it happened but I managed to look through most folders and get it back up to 31gb.

                After changing the power plan I haven’t noticed any difference and everything is running the same as before. I actually tried reinstalling Windows 11 while keeping apps and personal files and I’m still having the same problem as before after trying Apex Legends and Overwatch 2 again.

                Here’s my Speccy link: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/5...Tm4t1zE3erbHEB

                Thanks for the help

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15209

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Londmen
                  In a bizzare turn of events, overnight I’m guessing, my C: drive went from 47gb down to 10gb free space.
                  That is strange and you reinstalling Windows has kind of aggravated the issue because you are down to only 13% of free storage space and we cannot see any Windows 11 drivers present. fwiw, you really should not have anything else on the boot SSD as 250GB is just a bout big enough for just Windows and the system drivers, remember, Windows is just going to keep on growing and the last thing that you want to be doing is reinstalling every time Windows upgrades.

                  The two games that you mention are played online, are you aware that using a VPN impacts online gaming.

                  Question, why do you have so many sound and keyboard etc drivers installed, any drivers for hardware no longer present should be gotten rid of before the new hardware is installed, this goes for all devices including printers.

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                  • Londmen
                    PCHF Member
                    • Feb 2023
                    • 12

                    #10
                    I actually don’t have any games installed on the C: drive, a small part of it is personal files, the rest are programs I’m guessing and the windows install is 45gb which I don’t know if it’s normal or not.

                    I do know that using a VPN affects online games however I have not used one for a very long time so any VPN-files should be ones that I forgot about.

                    Another problem I have is that I can’t access the Device Manager, I’ve tried to fix it but nothing has worked so far. the error message is “The operation has been canceled due to computer limitations. Contact the system administrator.”

                    I’ve probably been too lazy to clean the drivers up and I’ve had my pc for quite a long time.

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                    • phillpower2
                      PCHF Administrator
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 15209

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Londmen
                      Another problem I have is that I can’t access the Device Manager,
                      Is this since you reinstalled Windows.
                      Originally posted by Londmen
                      I’ve probably been too lazy to clean the drivers up and I’ve had my pc for quite a long time.
                      You sure do have a load of stuff surplus to requirements, including Tunnel Bear which was never any good by all accounts.

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                      • Londmen
                        PCHF Member
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 12

                        #12
                        No, I’ve had the issue with the Device Manager for a long time. But I didn’t have any necessity to try and fix it at the time.

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                        • phillpower2
                          PCHF Administrator
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 15209

                          #13
                          Being that Device Manager is an integral part of Windows it needs fixing but what is more worrying is why the issue was not corrected when you reinstalled Windows back in November and again today.

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                          • Londmen
                            PCHF Member
                            • Feb 2023
                            • 12

                            #14
                            I chose to save all my apps when reinstalling W11, maybe an app would be tampering with something? I doubt it though.

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                            • phillpower2
                              PCHF Administrator
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 15209

                              #15
                              Above all else you need to get Windows fixed first, your security is compromised otherwise.

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