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  • gem7680
    PCHF Member
    • Dec 2022
    • 11

    #1

    Screen going black for a second repeatedly.

    Hi, I’m hoping someone can help me, my laptop with external monitor is intimately going black for a second and then returning. There doesn’t seem to be any pattern to the black outs, it seems random.

    I have tried multiple monitors, it does it still. I’ve replaced the HDMI cord with a new one from it’s packet, still does it.

    I’ve taken it to my local repair place and they said they had it on multiple monitors for hours and it didn’t do it. As soon as I got it home it started going black again.

    I hooked it up to my TV yesterday and had it running for a few hours and it didn’t black out once, I’ve tried it on a smaller TV today and after 10 mins or so it started blacking out.

    The internal monitor needs to be replace as there is damage to it but it’s needed to be replaced for quite a while and this has only just started happening in the past month or so.

    Here are the specs for the laptop, if anything else is needed please let me know. I have tried to find the memory dump but can’t seem to locate it. It’s enabled but can’t find the dump files.

    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Intel Core i7-8750H CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.21 GHz
    16.0GB Ram
    64-bit OS, x64-based processor
    Windows 11 Home

    I appreciate any advice I can get.
    Thanks.
  • Malnutrition
    PCHF Moderator
    • Jul 2016
    • 7045

    #2
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    • gem7680
      PCHF Member
      • Dec 2022
      • 11

      #3
      Thanks!

      I hope these are what you’re after.



      and

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      I hope I’ve done these correct.

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      • Malnutrition
        PCHF Moderator
        • Jul 2016
        • 7045

        #4
        I’ll tag you some help.

        https://www.dell.com/support/home/en...aptop/overview

        @Pyro @PeterOz

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        • Rustys
          PCHF Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 7862

          #5
          Originally posted by gem7680
          I’ve taken it to my local repair place and they said they had it on multiple monitors for hours and it didn’t do it
          Were you shown this.

          Is the laptop still under any warranty?

          Have you also tried reinstalling the display drivers using the DDU?

          Seeing that you are allowing Windows to update driver for you which can and does cause issues.
          Page 1 of 2 - Windows 10 Driver Updating. - posted in Windows 10 Discussion: I am rather peed-off by driver updating programs saying a number of my drivers are out-of-date. Of course they are out-of-date - time moves on. There are a number of credible driver updating programs available. My Avast AV has just said that my drivers need updating. A ploy to buy their program and wreck my PC.   Since Windows includes drivers in their updates (it has updated 12 so far on my PC), I see no saf...

          Originally posted by gem7680
          The internal monitor needs to be replace as there is damage to it but it’s needed to be replaced for quite a while and this has only just started happening in the past month or so.
          What caused this to happen may be having a domino effect.

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          • Malnutrition
            PCHF Moderator
            • Jul 2016
            • 7045

            #6
            Here are a few things you can do to improve performance on the computer.

            Uninstall the following with Geek uninstaller.

            AVG AntiVirus FREE - 22.11.3261
            Bonjour - 3.0.0.10
            Dell SupportAssist - 3.13.0.236
            Dell Update for Windows 10 - 4.1.0

            Run the AVG removal tool.

            Then reboot your computer.



            Reset your Hosts file.

            [ol]
            [li]Click here to download RstHosts v2.0[/li][li]Save the file to your desktop.[/li][li]Right Click and Run as Administrator.[/li][li]Click on Restaurer, then click OK at the prompt.[/li][li]This will restore the default host file.[/li][/ol]



            Open a notepad and copy the content of the code box below, paste into open notepad and save it to your desktop as clean.bat then right click on clean.bat and run as admin.

            [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Do not copy the word Code:
            Code:
            @echo off
            wmic /Namespace:\\root\default Path SystemRestore Call Enable "%SystemDrive%"
            WMIC /Namespace:\\root\default Path SystemRestore Call CreateRestorePoint "BatchRestorePoint", 100, 10
            fsutil resource setautoreset true c:\&fsutil usn deletejournal /d /n c:
            powercfg.exe /setactive 381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e
            powercfg -hibernate off
            bitsadmin /reset /allusers
            nbtstat -R
            nbtstat -RR
            netsh winsock reset all
            netsh winsock reset catalog
            netsh winhttp reset proxy
            netsh int tcp set heuristics disabled
            netsh int tcp set global rss=enabled
            netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal
            netsh interface httpstunnel reset all
            netsh interface portproxy reset all
            netsh interface ip delete arpcache
            netsh advfirewall reset
            netsh advfirewall set allprofiles state On
            wmic nicconfig where (IPEnabled=TRUE) call SetDNSServerSearchOrder ("76.76.19.19", "8.8.4.4")
            %WINDIR%\SYSTEM32\lodctr.exe /R
            %WINDIR%\SysWOW64\lodctr.exe /R
            C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\lodctr.exe /R
            C:\Windows\SysWOW64\lodctr.exe /R
            DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
            pause
            DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth
            pause
            del /s /q C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\download\*.*
            del /s /q "%userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\Cache\*.*"
            del /s /q "%userprofile%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Cache\*.*"
            del /s /q "%userprofile%\AppData\Local\Opera Software\Opera Stable\Cache\Cache_Data\*.*"
            del /s /q "%userprofile%\AppData\Local\temp\*.*"
            del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.tmp
            del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.log
            del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.chk
            del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\recycled\*.*
            del /f /s /q %windir%\*.bak
            del /f /s /q %windir%\prefetch\*.*
            ipconfig /flushdns
            ipconfig /registerdns
            sc stop RasAuto
            sc stop RasMan
            sc stop SessionEnv
            sc stop TermService
            sc stop UmRdpService
            sc stop RemoteAccess
            sc config RasAuto start= disabled
            sc config RasMan start= disabled
            sc config SessionEnv start= disabled
            sc config TermService start= disabled
            sc config UmRdpService start= disabled
            sc config RemoteAccess start= disabled
            sc stop sysmain
            sc config sysmain start= disabled
            sc stop iphlpsvc
            sc config iphlpsvc start= disabled
            sc stop DiagTrack
            sc config DiagTrack start= disabled
            sc stop dmwappushservice
            sc config dmwappushservice start= disabled
            sc stop WSearch
            sc config WSearch start= disabled
            sc stop lfsvc
            sc config lfsvc start= disabled
            del /s /q %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl
            REG ADD HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollection /v AllowTelemetry /d 0 /t REG_DWORD /f
            reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\SQMClient\parameters /v DisabledComponents /t REG_DWORD /d 0xFFFFFFFF
            reg add hklm\system\currentcontrolset\services\tcpip6\parameters /v DisabledComponents /t REG_DWORD /d 0xFFFFFFFF
            echo "" > %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl
            sfc /scannow
            pause
            shutdown -r
            Exit /B


            Use O&O shutup ten with suggested and somewhat suggested settings enabled.

            Disable windows update, and only enable it once a week to update on your terms not whenever microsoft feels you need an update.

            Uninstall Useless to you windows apps with O&O App buster.


            Completely remove all traces of old graphics driver wit DDU

            The tool can be used in Normal mode but for absolute stability when using DDU, Safemode is always the best.

            Download Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) Official - Remove AMD/NVIDIA/INTEL Graphics Drivers Cleanly - DDU is a driver removal utility that helps you completely uninstall AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers and packages from your system, leaving no leftovers behind, including registry keys, folders, files, and driver store.


            Boot up into normal mode, and use this tool.

            Reboot your machine and see how things are.[/COLOR]

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            • gem7680
              PCHF Member
              • Dec 2022
              • 11

              #7
              Originally posted by Rustys
              Were you shown this.

              Is the laptop still under any warranty?

              Have you also tried reinstalling the display drivers using the DDU?

              Seeing that you are allowing Windows to update driver for you which can and does cause issues.
              Page 1 of 2 - Windows 10 Driver Updating. - posted in Windows 10 Discussion: I am rather peed-off by driver updating programs saying a number of my drivers are out-of-date. Of course they are out-of-date - time moves on. There are a number of credible driver updating programs available. My Avast AV has just said that my drivers need updating. A ploy to buy their program and wreck my PC.   Since Windows includes drivers in their updates (it has updated 12 so far on my PC), I see no saf...


              What caused this to happen may be having a domino effect.
              Not shown no.
              Out of warranty.
              I haven’t reinstalled the disp divers using the Dudu no.
              Not sure what caused the monitor, I think it may have been smashed/damaged by some small people (neice and nephew).

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              • gem7680
                PCHF Member
                • Dec 2022
                • 11

                #8
                Originally posted by Malnutrition
                Here are a few things you can do to improve performance on the computer.

                Uninstall the following with Geek uninstaller.

                AVG AntiVirus FREE - 22.11.3261
                Bonjour - 3.0.0.10
                Dell SupportAssist - 3.13.0.236
                Dell Update for Windows 10 - 4.1.0

                Run the AVG removal tool.

                Then reboot your computer.



                Reset your Hosts file.

                [ol]
                [li]Click here to download RstHosts v2.0[/li][li]Save the file to your desktop.[/li][li]Right Click and Run as Administrator.[/li][li]Click on Restaurer, then click OK at the prompt.[/li][li]This will restore the default host file.[/li][/ol]



                Open a notepad and copy the content of the code box below, paste into open notepad and save it to your desktop as clean.bat then right click on clean.bat and run as admin.

                [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Do not copy the word Code:
                Code:
                @echo off
                wmic /Namespace:\\root\default Path SystemRestore Call Enable "%SystemDrive%"
                WMIC /Namespace:\\root\default Path SystemRestore Call CreateRestorePoint "BatchRestorePoint", 100, 10
                fsutil resource setautoreset true c:\&fsutil usn deletejournal /d /n c:
                powercfg.exe /setactive 381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e
                powercfg -hibernate off
                bitsadmin /reset /allusers
                nbtstat -R
                nbtstat -RR
                netsh winsock reset all
                netsh winsock reset catalog
                netsh winhttp reset proxy
                netsh int tcp set heuristics disabled
                netsh int tcp set global rss=enabled
                netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal
                netsh interface httpstunnel reset all
                netsh interface portproxy reset all
                netsh interface ip delete arpcache
                netsh advfirewall reset
                netsh advfirewall set allprofiles state On
                wmic nicconfig where (IPEnabled=TRUE) call SetDNSServerSearchOrder ("76.76.19.19", "8.8.4.4")
                %WINDIR%\SYSTEM32\lodctr.exe /R
                %WINDIR%\SysWOW64\lodctr.exe /R
                C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\lodctr.exe /R
                C:\Windows\SysWOW64\lodctr.exe /R
                DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup
                pause
                DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth
                pause
                del /s /q C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\download\*.*
                del /s /q "%userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\Default\Cache\*.*"
                del /s /q "%userprofile%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Cache\*.*"
                del /s /q "%userprofile%\AppData\Local\Opera Software\Opera Stable\Cache\Cache_Data\*.*"
                del /s /q "%userprofile%\AppData\Local\temp\*.*"
                del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.tmp
                del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.log
                del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.chk
                del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\recycled\*.*
                del /f /s /q %windir%\*.bak
                del /f /s /q %windir%\prefetch\*.*
                ipconfig /flushdns
                ipconfig /registerdns
                sc stop RasAuto
                sc stop RasMan
                sc stop SessionEnv
                sc stop TermService
                sc stop UmRdpService
                sc stop RemoteAccess
                sc config RasAuto start= disabled
                sc config RasMan start= disabled
                sc config SessionEnv start= disabled
                sc config TermService start= disabled
                sc config UmRdpService start= disabled
                sc config RemoteAccess start= disabled
                sc stop sysmain
                sc config sysmain start= disabled
                sc stop iphlpsvc
                sc config iphlpsvc start= disabled
                sc stop DiagTrack
                sc config DiagTrack start= disabled
                sc stop dmwappushservice
                sc config dmwappushservice start= disabled
                sc stop WSearch
                sc config WSearch start= disabled
                sc stop lfsvc
                sc config lfsvc start= disabled
                del /s /q %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl
                REG ADD HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollection /v AllowTelemetry /d 0 /t REG_DWORD /f
                reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\SQMClient\parameters /v DisabledComponents /t REG_DWORD /d 0xFFFFFFFF
                reg add hklm\system\currentcontrolset\services\tcpip6\parameters /v DisabledComponents /t REG_DWORD /d 0xFFFFFFFF
                echo "" > %ProgramData%\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl
                sfc /scannow
                pause
                shutdown -r
                Exit /B


                Use O&O shutup ten with suggested and somewhat suggested settings enabled.

                Disable windows update, and only enable it once a week to update on your terms not whenever microsoft feels you need an update.

                Uninstall Useless to you windows apps with O&O App buster.


                Completely remove all traces of old graphics driver wit DDU

                The tool can be used in Normal mode but for absolute stability when using DDU, Safemode is always the best.

                Download Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) Official - Remove AMD/NVIDIA/INTEL Graphics Drivers Cleanly - DDU is a driver removal utility that helps you completely uninstall AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers and packages from your system, leaving no leftovers behind, including registry keys, folders, files, and driver store.


                Boot up into normal mode, and use this tool.

                Reboot your machine and see how things are.
                [/COLOR]
                [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]
                Ok, will try these and see how I go.[/color]

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                • Malnutrition
                  PCHF Moderator
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7045

                  #9
                  Ok, let me know if it helps. Other than that, here is a link to the service manual (PDF). You could if you feel comfortable with it, open the thing up and make sure nothing is loose inside. No broken connections, or anything that needs to be soldered. [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Might as well clean the machine of any dust while you are in there, if you have never done that then for sure it’s dusty in there.

                  Heat could be an issue here. That temp is a bit high… [ATTACH type=“full” alt=“1670573070855.png”]10976[/ATTACH]

                  Anything under 60 degrees C (140 degrees F) is perfect. Just above this temperature is okay, but as you creep above 70 degrees C (158 degrees F), you need to look at how to cool your PC down.

                  As for uninstalling AVG it’s just crap software, you might wander why I am suggesting you remove it. I’ve helped on forums for many years and seen AVG cause a whole slew of issues on many many machines. The built in defender is sufficient and if you combine that with ublock origin and are not downloading random things, you should be fine.


                  Also, I suggest to disable these scheduled task…

                  MicrosoftEdgeUpdateTaskMachineUA
                  GoogleUpdateTaskMachineUA
                  GoogleUpdateTaskMachineCore
                  Adobe Acrobat Update Task
                  AdobeGCInvoker-1.0
                  MicrosoftEdgeUpdateTaskMachineCore
                  Dell SupportAssistAgent AutoUpdate



                  If you do not use One Drive, then click here to see how to disable/remove it.[/COLOR]

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                  • gem7680
                    PCHF Member
                    • Dec 2022
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Malnutrition
                    Ok, let me know if it helps. Other than that, here is a link to the service manual (PDF). You could if you feel comfortable with it, open the thing up and make sure nothing is loose inside. No broken connections, or anything that needs to be soldered. [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Might as well clean the machine of any dust while you are in there, if you have never done that then for sure it’s dusty in there.

                    Heat could be an issue here. That temp is a bit high… [ATTACH type=“full” alt=“1670573070855.png”]10976[/ATTACH]

                    Anything under 60 degrees C (140 degrees F) is perfect. Just above this temperature is okay, but as you creep above 70 degrees C (158 degrees F), you need to look at how to cool your PC down.

                    As for uninstalling AVG it’s just crap software, you might wander why I am suggesting you remove it. I’ve helped on forums for many years and seen AVG cause a whole slew of issues on many many machines. The built in defender is sufficient and if you combine that with ublock origin and are not downloading random things, you should be fine.


                    Also, I suggest to disable these scheduled task…

                    MicrosoftEdgeUpdateTaskMachineUA
                    GoogleUpdateTaskMachineUA
                    GoogleUpdateTaskMachineCore
                    Adobe Acrobat Update Task
                    AdobeGCInvoker-1.0
                    MicrosoftEdgeUpdateTaskMachineCore
                    Dell SupportAssistAgent AutoUpdate



                    If you do not use One Drive, then click here to see how to disable/remove it.
                    [/COLOR]
                    [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]
                    Thanks so much for all your invaluable help. I’ll let you know what happens. I haven’t opened it up before so will give that a try too. I was surprised with the temp as it’s fairly quiet. I read somewhere that the thermal paste might need replacing on the cpu.[/color]

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                    • Malnutrition
                      PCHF Moderator
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7045

                      #11
                      Originally posted by gem7680
                      I haven’t opened it up before
                      Yep, guaranteed it’s full of dust, these things need to breathe. Heat destroys computer components, almost as much as small people do… ???

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                      • Malnutrition
                        PCHF Moderator
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7045

                        #12
                        @gem7680 How about an update for us, how are things moving along?

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                        • gem7680
                          PCHF Member
                          • Dec 2022
                          • 11

                          #13
                          I’ve started to try a few of the suggestion, still going through them. I have to fit it in around kids and life. As of yet there hasn’t been much of a change, I’m plugging away.

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                          • PeterOz
                            PCHF Technical Response Team
                            • Mar 2021
                            • 4191

                            #14
                            What is the make and model of the 2nd monitor?
                            When you ran speccy you had it connected to a Kogan tv.
                            Can you see anything at all on the laptop screen?
                            If yes, does it go blank at the same time as the monitor

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                            • PeterOz
                              PCHF Technical Response Team
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 4191

                              #15
                              Also, may we have the service tag number of the laptop

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