Booting up windows 7 after 1 year. Everything is unusuably slow

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  • clawish
    PCHF Member
    • Oct 2016
    • 14

    #1

    Booting up windows 7 after 1 year. Everything is unusuably slow

    After one year I’m trying to boot my windows 7 computer, and I run into issues I never had (NO issues back in September 2015):
    The login screen freezes as soon as a key is pressed on the login screen. Mouse is still movable. Wait 10 minutes and the computer is reacting again. Enter password. Press enter. Login takes forever. When on the desktop, opening “My Computer” takes very very long, and some programs don’t start. (IrfanView DOES start, while others like Chrome and iTunes don’t even start but show the “A problem occurred” dialog.)
    In safe mode, everything works fine! All drives/SSDs have the files I expected to be on there.
    Cleared the auto start menu in msconfig. Didn’t solve the problem.
    When trying to “Repair Computer” in the F8 menu, the setup doesn’t find any issues.
    I tried booting with only one of the RAM bars, tried both individually, same story.
    Vaccuum cleaned the computer from the inside. Still same bad behavior.

    Can anybody help me? How can I run this computer again?.. :'/
  • Malnutrition
    PCHF Moderator
    • Jul 2016
    • 7045

    #2
    Welcome to PCHF. So you say everything is fine in Safe Mode?

    First before we get into software troubleshooting, I think it is best to re seat ALL hardware.

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    • clawish
      PCHF Member
      • Oct 2016
      • 14

      #3
      Yes everything is fine in safe mode.
      I already dusted off the RAM and reseated them. Will do the same with the video card now. Will be back

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      • Antman
        PCHF Member
        • Oct 2016
        • 316

        #4
        Originally posted by clawish
        In safe mode, everything works fine…
        Cleared the auto start menu in msconfig. Didn’t solve the problem.
        Indicates that msconfig options do not include offending process. We need a more comprehensive tool.

        Download Autoruns from MS.
        “This utility, which has the most comprehensive knowledge of auto-starting locations of any startup monitor, shows you what programs are configured to run during system bootup or login”
        Once scan is complete, you can export a list of all entries - File, Save, ZIP, upload to this thread, etc.
        Or, use the ‘disable everything, re-enable one at a time’ approach. This is valid here as a test of why a clean boot did not solve the problem.

        If you have, or acquire, a Linux Live boot CD/flash drive, and the PC boots and behaves correctly, you will have essentially proven all hardware being in working order.

        I always recommend a SMART Test for a slow PC (examines physical damage), followed by chkdsk /r from an elevated cmd prompt (examines logical damage).
        HDDScan is a Free test tool for hard disk drives, USB flash, RAID volumes and SSD drives. The utility can check your disk for bad blocks in various test modes.

        CHKDSK: What Is It and How Do I Run It? - Ask Leo!

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        • Malnutrition
          PCHF Moderator
          • Jul 2016
          • 7045

          #5
          @Antman … (y)

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          • clawish
            PCHF Member
            • Oct 2016
            • 14

            #6
            I reseated and dusted off the video card.
            Originally posted by Antman
            If you have, or acquire, a Linux Live boot CD/flash drive, and the PC boots and behaves correctly, you will have essentially proven all hardware being in working order.
            I have a second SSD installed with a Unix system on it. It works as intended.
            Originally posted by Antman
            I always recommend a SMART Test for a slow PC (examines physical damage), followed by chkdsk /r from an elevated cmd prompt (examines logical damage).
            The SMART test of the SSD where the operating system (Win 7) is on gives all green lights.
            One of the hard disks gives the warning “Current Pending Errors Count” 200, where 200 is the worst value.
            The other hard disk gives the warning “UltraDMA CRC Errors” 200, where 200 is the worst value.
            The other SSD where the Unix system is on gives the error “Soft ECC COrrection Rate” 100, where 100 is the worst value. (but keep in mind, the unix system boots and works as I am used to it! Without errors.)

            The AutoStart tool you gave me the link to freezes when I untick certain boxes.. Will see what I can do
            I am about to do checkdisk.

            Issue has not been resolved yet.

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            • Antman
              PCHF Member
              • Oct 2016
              • 316

              #7
              Originally posted by clawish
              I have a second SSD installed with a Unix system on it. It works as intended.
              Does not test or prove the “first” SSD.
              The SMART test of the SSD where the operating system (Win 7) is on gives all green lights.
              Disregard all other values. You have passed SMART.

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              • clawish
                PCHF Member
                • Oct 2016
                • 14

                #8
                Originally posted by Antman
                Does not test or prove the “first” SSD.
                Disregard all other values. You have passed SMART.
                How long does CHKDSK take? It seems to halt at 40 percent in phase 2.

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                • Antman
                  PCHF Member
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 316

                  #9
                  Originally posted by clawish
                  The AutoStart tool you gave me the link to freezes when I untick certain boxes.. Will see what I can do
                  I am about to do checkdisk.
                  Assumption:
                  You are in Safe Mode
                  PC does not freeze while when you are browsing File Explorer. Please confirm. Dig around. I want you to try and make it freeze by simply reading the disk.

                  Clicking a box in the AutoRuns tool creates a disk write in a registry file. Please run from elevated cmd:
                  sfc /scannow
                  I have no idea if SFC checks any of the DAT files, so this may be a waste of time

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                  • Antman
                    PCHF Member
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 316

                    #10
                    Originally posted by clawish
                    How long does CHKDSK take? It seems to halt at 40 percent in phase 2.
                    Let it run.

                    chkdsk does NOT check the disk, per se. It checks for file integrity in a select group of files. Failure to recover integrity MAY be an indication of failed drive, but it is not proof.

                    A passed SMART test is NOT proof that a drive is physically sound.

                    Sometimes, a “failed” drive is actually a power supply problem.

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                    • clawish
                      PCHF Member
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 14

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Antman
                      Assumption:
                      You are in Safe Mode
                      PC does not freeze while when you are browsing File Explorer. Please confirm. Dig around. I want you to try and make it freeze by simply reading the disk.
                      Dug around quite a bit. Didn’t freeze.
                      Originally posted by Antman
                      Let it run.
                      chkdsk does NOT check the disk, per se. It checks for file integrity in a select group of files. Failure to recover integrity MAY be an indication of failed drive, but it is not proof.
                      Ok, it’s running now. But it repeatedly halts and slows down the computer at 40%. (It’s not a freeze since the mouse still moves. But I can’t open “Computer” anymore, or any folders in the start menu… Everything is super slow and doesn’t open)

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                      • Antman
                        PCHF Member
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 316

                        #12
                        If you do not have another user profile, create one. Log in with a different (local) account.

                        Your PC (explorer) is looking for something it cannot find. If we get lucky, the missing thing is in your user profile.

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                        • clawish
                          PCHF Member
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 14

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Antman
                          If you do not have another user profile, create one. Log in with a different (local) account.

                          Your PC (explorer) is looking for something it cannot find. If we get lucky, the missing thing is in your user profile.
                          This didn’t work unfortunately. Same error.
                          Btw unticking some boxes in the AutoStart did improve things a little bit as I now can consistently get onto the desktop in non-safe mode. This was not possible before (only on rare occasion I somehow managed to do it by waiting enough). But from the desktop on I can make it hang by opening a program basically…

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                          • clawish
                            PCHF Member
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 14

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Antman
                            Clicking a box in the AutoRuns tool creates a disk write in a registry file. Please run from elevated cmd:
                            sfc /scannow
                            I have no idea if SFC checks any of the DAT files, so this may be a waste of time
                            sfc /scannow hangs at 17%, similar to CHKDSK

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                            • Antman
                              PCHF Member
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 316

                              #15
                              C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
                              Copy this to a new folder on your desktop.

                              Delete every folder except Administrator Tools and Startup.

                              Delete everything in the Startup folder.
                              Delete everything in the Administrator Tools folder EXCEPT Computer Management


                              stand by

                              Boot, test

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