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  • bacKz
    PCHF Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 8

    #1

    OVERLAGING, ULTRA HIGH PING LATENCY, UNPLAYABLE, DESTROYS YOUR DAY.

    Hey! I have an laptop HP Elitebook 8460p, and I’m always getting high ping in almost all games . I tried formating it and installing new windows + cleaned all the motherboard of laptop.
    But still lags everywhere like 3-4 sec and comes back in normal. it’s really annoying and frustrating.. Also when i play games I get like 120-450 ping which makes all games unplayable. I also tried some “optimizers/fixers” for network high ping but still it doesn’t work. Same results again.. Any helps would be appreciated. Thanks!
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8982

    #2
    Hello

    Hopefully some of our members will chime in soon.
    @Twitch6000 @Malnutrition @Samuria

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    • phillpower2
      PCHF Administrator
      • Sep 2016
      • 15209

      #3
      Welcome to PCHF bacKz,

      Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

      To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

      In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

      In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

      Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.

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      • Rustys
        PCHF Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 7862

        #4
        To add to what @phillpower2 has stated.
        1. What speeds are you paying for and have you compared to what you are receiving according to any speed test site?
          Use Speedtest on all your devices with our free desktop and mobile apps.

          Speakeasy Internet Speed Test - Check Your Broadband Speed | Fusion Connect
        2. When was the last time you power cycled the modem/router?
        3. What programs like AV, security, firewalls do you have running?

        Additional:

        Are you connecting via wired or wireless?

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        • bacKz
          PCHF Member
          • Mar 2018
          • 8

          #5
          Speccy Snapshot: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/W...5piapB8HHnL0sP
          1. 15mbps but I only get this speed: Speedtest by Ookla - The Global Broadband Speed Test
          2. Right now.

          3.None. Just the built-in Windows Defender of Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows Firewall.

          I’ve had this problem even in Windows 7 also everywhere where I play or do something it lags like 3-4 seconds and it comes in normal. Not sure what might be causing this problem , Sometime I get around 450 ping while I play games in browser or Installed Games. I even bought a new router (Stronger than the old one) but same results again . It’s similar like CPU Throttling but in CPU-z Program it says it’s 2992.86 MHz. This might cause even GPU i’m not sure.

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          • phillpower2
            PCHF Administrator
            • Sep 2016
            • 15209

            #6
            After clean installing Windows have you ever reinstalled the HP drivers and starting with the chipset drivers first.

            Can you post what games are involved and on what partition they are stored on the hard drive.

            You have a warning that your HDD has problems;

            Storage
            Hard drives
            ST9320325AS
            Manufacturer: Seagate
            Form Factor: 2.5"
            Heads: 16
            Cylinders: 38,913
            Tracks: 9,922,815
            Sectors: 625,137,345
            SATA type: SATA-II 3.0Gb/s
            Device type: Fixed
            ATA Standard: ATA8-ACS
            Serial Number: 6VE53M95
            Firmware Version Number: 0002SDM1
            LBA Size: 48-bit LBA
            Power On Count: 3284 times
            Power On Time: 26.8 days
            Speed: 5400 RPM
            Features: S.M.A.R.T., APM, NCQ
            Max. Transfer Mode: SATA II 3.0Gb/s
            Used Transfer Mode: SATA II 3.0Gb/s
            Interface: SATA
            Capacity: 298 GB
            Real size: 320,072,933,376 bytes
            RAID Type: None
            S.M.A.R.T
            [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]Status: Warning

            The power plan is set to High Performance, this can cause overheating and stability issues caused by overheating.

            Power Profile
            Active power scheme: [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]High performance[/COLOR][/COLOR]

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            • bacKz
              PCHF Member
              • Mar 2018
              • 8

              #7
              Yeah I used some Driver Installers after installing (formatting entire local disk C) Windows 8.1 like: Driver Easy, Driver Booster and AMD driver Auto-detect for installing the GPU drivers and HD Sound drivers.

              I get these lags while playing .io games like Agario and when I play Cs 1.6 , also before I had Android emulator and I had the same problem I got like every 1-2 minutes lags 3-4 seconds and this was really annoying asf.

              I also forgot to mention that Sometimes I get weird little sounds from the HDD.

              I’m using High Performance profile cause I’m laging even more with Balanced profile, but It doesn’t overheat really that much.

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              • phillpower2
                PCHF Administrator
                • Sep 2016
                • 15209

                #8
                You never old us what partition the games are on.
                Originally posted by bacKz
                I also forgot to mention that Sometimes I get weird little sounds from the HDD.
                Can you describe the sounds.

                Going offline shortly as its getting late here and have an early start, do the following and hopefully someone else will take a look while I`m not around.

                Download and run Crystal Disk info (free) from here

                Run the program, grab a screenshot (possibly two) of the results and upload it for us.

                To capture and post a screenshot;

                Click on the ALT key + PRT SCR key..its on the top row..right hand side..now click on start…all programs…accessories…paint…left click in the white area …press CTRL + V…click on file…click on save…save it to your desktop…name it something related to the screen your capturing… BE SURE TO SAVE IT AS A .JPG …otherwise it may be to big to upload… after typing in any response you have… click on Upload a File to add the screenshot.

                Screenshot instructions are provided to assist those that may read this topic but are not yet aware of the “how to”.

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                • bacKz
                  PCHF Member
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 8

                  #9
                  Originally posted by phillpower2
                  To capture and post a screenshot;

                  Click on the ALT key + PRT SCR key..its on the top row..right hand side..now click on start…all programs…accessories…paint…left click in the white area …press CTRL + V…click on file…click on save…save it to your desktop…name it something related to the screen your capturing… BE SURE TO SAVE IT AS A .JPG …otherwise it may be to big to upload… after typing in any response you have… click on Upload a File to add the screenshot.
                  ”.
                  Of course The games are in Local disc C.
                  idk how to describe the sounds but they are so small almost You can hear them , it’s like clicking sound but it doesn’t make really a big noise .

                  Crystal disk Screenshot : Screenshot by Lightshot
                  Second screenshot: Screenshot by Lightshot

                  P.s: Do you think the HDD might be all the cause of these lags ?

                  also forgot to mention while playing cs 1.6 I don’t get drops in FPS only in performance of the game , it starts laging like 1-3 sec and comes back to normal.

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                  • phillpower2
                    PCHF Administrator
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 15209

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bacKz
                    I’m not a noob ffs..
                    Not that I need to explain myself to anybody but fwiw helpers on forums use what are called canned speeches so that they can more efficiently get a reply back to people that they are trying to help, you will note that so as not to offend the more clever people I actually include the following in the canned speech for Crystal Disk.
                    Originally posted by phillpower2
                    Screenshot instructions are provided to assist those that may read this topic but are not yet aware of the “how to”.
                    Crystal Disk also says that your HDD is failing, download and run the extended Seatools test, Seatools from here
                    Originally posted by bacKz
                    Of course The games are in Local disc C.
                    To help protect Windows from becoming corrupted it should when possible be installed on its own partition, games, music and other personal data should be kept seperate.

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                    • bacKz
                      PCHF Member
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Originally posted by phillpower2
                      Crystal Disk also says that your HDD is failing, download and run the extended Seatools test, Seatools from here
                      I downloaded and installed the Seatool Screenshot by Lightshot
                      What tests should I do now ?

                      Also did a S.M.A.R.T Test and it passed Screenshot by Lightshot

                      I even did a HDD speed test with CrystalDiskMark and recorded the little noises with my phone, there’s the link of the recorded HDD noise: Vocaroo | Online voice recorder (You might need headphones to listen it cause the sounds are small, the background noise is the Fan working)

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                      • phillpower2
                        PCHF Administrator
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 15209

                        #12
                        Do the short generic and then the long generic tests, it is possible for a HDD to pass one test but not another.

                        The sound in your audio clip suggests that the hard drives heads are failing, a common fault with Seagate HDDs, check the audio clip here

                        Reason why I asked what partition the games were on was because of the low amount of free storage space on the D: partition on the HDD, some info on the affects of being low on free storage space on a HDD/partition is explained below;

                        For Windows to be able to run efficiently and to be able to update you need to have between 20 and 25% of the partition or drive available as free storage space at all times, if you don`t you risk Windows becoming corrupt or not being able to update which puts you at risk of malware attack.

                        On data only HDDs or partitions you must always make sure that you have a minimum of 10% of free storage space on the drive/partition or likewise the data will corrupt, programs will be slow or may not load and worse case scenario a HDD can fail mechanically.

                        An overheating HDD can also exhibit the exact same symptoms as those described above.

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                        • bacKz
                          PCHF Member
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 8

                          #13
                          Originally posted by phillpower2
                          Do the short generic and then the long generic tests, it is possible for a HDD to pass one test but not another..
                          I did these two tests and there’s the results: 1. Screenshot by Lightshot Short Generic Test - Passed , 2. Screenshot by Lightshot Long Generic Test - Failed, Screenshot by Lightshot Long Generic Test 2 - Another Long Generic Test - Failed, again as the first one. The SeaTool recommends me to use their SeaTool for DOS to repair the problems with sectors. Will this really solve my sectors problem? Will this solve all the problems and fix the sectors without needing to replace with a new one or it just saves the time before it die?
                          Originally posted by phillpower2
                          The sound in your audio clip suggests that the hard drives heads are failing, a common fault with Seagate HDDs, check the audio clip here
                          These sounds of hard driver with bad heads I don’t think they’re the same as mine cuz you can barely listen the HDD noises, only if you put you ear so close then you can hear some little like “Clicking” noise but they’re so small not as the audio clip you provided me in the link.
                          Originally posted by phillpower2
                          Reason why I asked what partition the games were on was because of the low amount of free storage space on the D: partition on the HDD, some info on the affects of being low on free storage space on a HDD/partition is explained below;
                          I’ll try to delete some unnecessary files and stuff from the Local Disk D partition , this partition is full cuz I have some saved files when I had Windows 7 and some stuff when I formated Windows 8.
                          Originally posted by phillpower2
                          For Windows to be able to run efficiently and to be able to update you need to have between 20 and 25% of the partition or drive available as free storage space at all times, if you don`t you risk Windows becoming corrupt or not being able to update which puts you at risk of malware attack.
                          As I mentioned up , I’ll free up some space from there.
                          Originally posted by phillpower2
                          On data only HDDs or partitions you must always make sure that you have a minimum of 10% of free storage space on the drive/partition or likewise the data will corrupt, programs will be slow or may not load and worse case scenario a HDD can fail mechanically.
                          Mentioned up
                          Originally posted by phillpower2
                          An overheating HDD can also exhibit the exact same symptoms as those described above
                          I did again a new test with CrystalDiskInfo and I got only 39°C (is this temperature to high for a HDD? ) and don’t think my HDD is overheating , it just makes these little noises. I also got two new errors in the test , you can see them in the below screenshot:
                          Screenshot by Lightshot

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                          • Rustys
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 7862

                            #14
                            To add to the already advise given.
                            Originally posted by bacKz
                            I even did a HDD speed test with CrystalDiskMark and recorded the little noises with my phone, there’s the link of the recorded HDD noise: (You might need headphones to listen it cause the sounds are small, the background noise is the Fan working)
                            When I click the link it takes me to page with no file.


                            Originally posted by bacKz
                            Will this really solve my sectors problem? Will this solve all the problems and fix the sectors without needing to replace with a new one or it just saves the time before it die?
                            It will only move the data that is on the affected sectors and mark the affected sectors as bad where no data can be written to them any longer.

                            From you description of and what the tools that have been ran can say there is deferentially HDD failure and you need get any data off the drive that you want (documents pictures so no so forth) and replace the drive.

                            Do you have the software for that system so you can do a reinstall? Do you have another system that you can do download and create the install disk?

                            [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]Download Windows 8.1 Disc Image (ISO File)

                            Then go to the computers manufactures web site and get the proper drives to install in the proper order.[/COLOR]

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                            • bacKz
                              PCHF Member
                              • Mar 2018
                              • 8

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rustys
                              To add to the already advise given.

                              When I click the link it takes me to page with no file.

                              [ATTACH]3651[/ATTACH]
                              That white icon of Adobe Flash reminds me that Adobe Flash is needed there. Check this link : bacKz's profile on Clyp , I uploaded in another site,
                              Originally posted by Rustys
                              It will only move the data that is on the affected sectors and mark the affected sectors as bad where no data can be written to them any longer.

                              From you description of and what the tools that have been ran can say there is deferentially HDD failure and you need get any data off the drive that you want (documents pictures so no so forth) and replace the drive.
                              I don’t know how it is possible to be broken the HDD so fast and that I should need to replace with a new one in such a short time of 2 years.. In these 2 years I formatted the Windows like 4 times so far and I don’t understand how it broke so fast.. I have an old computer which is old like 12 years old and never had a single problem with my Hard disk driver there..
                              Originally posted by Rustys
                              Do you have the software for that system so you can do a reinstall? Do you have another system that you can do download and create the install disk?

                              [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]Download Windows 8.1 Disc Image (ISO File)

                              Then go to the computers manufactures web site and get the proper drives to install in the proper order.
                              [/COLOR]
                              [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]
                              I already have the ISO file but I can’t reinstall the Windows at the moment. Also is it necessary to reinstall the Windows or will it solve anything ?[/color]

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