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  • Malnutrition
    PCHF Moderator
    • Jul 2016
    • 7045

    #31
    Oh crap. I read that wrong. I apologize, I thought you said you still had the error.

    So overall how is the machine doing?
    Can you post a new PCHF log, and if Onedrive is still active, there is an option to remove in the PCHF tool.

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    • sisom
      PCHF Member
      • Sep 2023
      • 36

      #32
      Hi, I have attached the new PCHF log, and I’ve used the option to remove OneDrive.
      I have just started running FreeFileSync again on my 8TB drive with 480GB of data to copy, I will reply in a few minutes when I’ve seen how it’s doing.

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      • Malnutrition
        PCHF Moderator
        • Jul 2016
        • 7045

        #33
        Ok. I’ll check back after work.

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        • sisom
          PCHF Member
          • Sep 2023
          • 36

          #34
          I am also wondering if I should try hardware related changes - i.e. I could disconnect four of my six HDDs and try to do a FreeFileSync between the remaining two drives, as I’ve had problems (over ten years ago) when I had a hard drive which prevented my PC from booting up (it wasn’t the boot drive) until I disconnected it. I could also try disconnecting my two spanned M.2 NVME drives which are in the PCIe card, maybe they are causing problems.
          And I am thinking of temporarily removing the 250GB M.2 NVME Windows drive, and putting in a spare 500GB M.2 NVME drive I have lying around, and install Windows 10 from scratch onto that, then run FreeFileSync and see if I still have the same problems, which would only take me an hour.

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          • Malnutrition
            PCHF Moderator
            • Jul 2016
            • 7045

            #35
            Temperarily uninstall Nord VPN and see how things go.

            Use Edge Block

            Right click your task bar at the bottom
            Select task manager.
            Startup
            Right click and disable.

            [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]RtkAudUService:
            MicrosoftEdgeAutoLaunch_CCB3F26513D832B3FBF6817A42 6769B2:

            Download and run the batch file below.

            Reboot the machine after disable of startups and running the batch.

            When you are trying to back up disable Defender and see if that helps.





            And what you say in post #35 give it a go and see how things turn out. (y)[/COLOR]

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            • sisom
              PCHF Member
              • Sep 2023
              • 36

              #36
              I’ve done everything and rebooted, now FreeFileSync appears to be working much better - I am getting at least 30MB/s on my F: and G: drives, and currently 100MB/s on my H: and I: drives (all are 8TB HDDs - F is backed up to G, and H is backed up to I). No slow downs to 0 MB/s, and no problems with the internet stopping, and no apparent problems with other programs freezing either. Could it be Defender? Could it be checking every single file I’m copying from drive to drive, and thus slowing it all down?

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              • Malnutrition
                PCHF Moderator
                • Jul 2016
                • 7045

                #37
                Not sure about that, I do know it would be simple to just disable it when you do backups, that is a simple click of a button now. Edge Also chews ram…

                Which of these apps do you actually use, we could free up some more system resources by removing the ones you do not use with a batch file, pick the ones you want to keep.
                Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.0 2.1810.18004.0
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                Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider 12.50.6001.0
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                Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.1 2.1.27427.0
                Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.1 2.1.27427.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAlarms 10.1906.2182.0
                Microsoft.SkypeApp 14.53.77.0
                Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay 1.17.29001.0
                Microsoft.XboxGameOverlay 1.46.11001.0
                Microsoft.XboxApp 48.49.31001.0
                Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI 1.23.28002.0
                Microsoft.WindowsSoundRecorder 10.1906.1972.0
                Microsoft.WindowsMaps 5.1906.1972.0
                Microsoft.WindowsCalculator 10.1906.55.0
                Microsoft.ScreenSketch 10.1907.2471.0
                Microsoft.People 10.1902.633.0
                Microsoft.Office.OneNote 16001.12026.20112.0
                Microsoft.MSPaint 6.1907.29027.0
                Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes 3.6.73.0
                Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection 4.4.8204.0
                Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub 18.1903.1152.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.2 2000.802.31.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.2 2000.802.31.0
                Microsoft.LanguageExperiencePacken-GB 19041.53.185.0
                Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8 8.2310.30001.0
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                Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00 14.0.33519.0
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                Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop 14.0.33728.0
                Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop 14.0.33728.0
                Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions 1.1.1295.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.5 5001.159.55.0
                Microsoft.WebpImageExtension 1.1.1711.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.5 5001.178.1908.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.5 5001.214.1843.0
                PythonSoftwareFoundation.Python.3.9 3.9.3568.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.4 4000.1309.2056.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.4 4000.1309.2056.0
                Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7 7.2409.9001.0
                Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7 7.2409.9001.0
                RealtekSemiconductorCorp.RealtekAudioControl 1.29.256.0
                A-Volute.28054DF1F58B4 3.16.19.0
                A-Volute.SonicStudio3 3.16.19.0
                Microsoft.Getstarted 10.2312.1.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.5 5001.275.500.0
                Microsoft.GetHelp 10.2409.22951.0
                Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension 1.2.3.0
                Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller 1.24.25200.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.5 5001.311.2039.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.5 5001.311.2039.0
                Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp 22410.1401.0.0
                Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions 1.2.2.0
                Microsoft.WindowsStore 22411.1401.5.0
                Microsoft.Windows.Photos 2024.11120.5010.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.6 6000.318.2304.0
                Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.1.6 6000.318.2304.0
                NVIDIACorp.NVIDIAControlPanel 8.1.967.0
                Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement 10.0.18101.0
                Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement 10.0.18101.0

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                • Malnutrition
                  PCHF Moderator
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7045

                  #38
                  @sisom where we at? Any updates, would you consider this resolved?

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                  • Bruce
                    PCHF Moderator
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 10702

                    #39
                    @sisom - it’s been a week, any news?

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                    • veeg
                      PCHF Director
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 8982

                      #40
                      Thread closed. If you need to re-open thread just contact a staff member,

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                      • Bruce
                        PCHF Moderator
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 10702

                        #41
                        re-opened at OP request. (y)
                        Hi Bruce, sorry for not getting back to the forum, I have been away for a week and hadn’t looked at my PC. I still have the same problem with disk copying slowing down to zero, but now I’ve done some tests by booting into Aomei Backupper from a USB stick, and doing simple backup images of my Windows installation onto the various (6) HDDs I have in my PC, and the 2 x 2TB SSDs, and found the same problem, but only one two of the HDDs.

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                        • sisom
                          PCHF Member
                          • Sep 2023
                          • 36

                          #42
                          I was copying 70GB of videos from H: drive (8TB HDD) to I: drive (8TB HDD) yesterday, and after a few minutes of copying at a rate of between 50MB/s and 180MB/s, it went down to 0MB/s, and internet access stopped. It stayed that way for about five minutes, then suddenly started copying again, and the internet appeared at exactly the same time - i.e. a blank webpage I had tried to reload a minute or two earlier, suddenly loaded.

                          So I decided to try using an old version of AOMEI Backupper from 2017, which I have on a USB stick, and booted into that instead of Windows, then backed up my C: drive to each of my various hard drives. Here are the drives I have in my system:

                          C: 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD Windows

                          D: 4TB - Two 2TB M.2 NVMe SSDs on an Akasa AK-PCCM2P-04 Dual M.2 PCIe SSD Adapter, spanned as one drive, for Kontakt sample libraries, and other VST (music synths) sample libraries.

                          F: 8TB HDD
                          G: 8TB HDD (back up of F: )

                          H: 16TB HDD
                          I: 16TB HDD (back up of H: )

                          M: 8TB HDD
                          N: 8TB HDD (back up of M: )

                          Below are screenshots I took while doing one of the back ups, to show the settings I used.

                          Backing up C: drive to D: drive (4TB - Two 2TB M.2 NVMe SSDs) took 3 minutes, at 750MB/s, no slow down at all.
                          To F: 8TB HDD drive, started at 300MB/s, stopped at 41% or 63GB copied, only for 10 seconds, then carried on fine all the way to the end at over 200MB/s.
                          To I: 16TB HDD drive, stopped at 33% or 50GB copied, started at 375MB/s until 70GB, then started, then continued pausing at regular intervals until finished.
                          To M: 8TB HDD drive, stopped at 41% or 63GB copied, then carried on until 76% or 114GB copied, and stopped again, then carried on until finished.

                          With H: and I: drive, I tried both of the copying methods on the ‘VSS’ tab, it seemed to make no difference which one I used, they both had stoppages throughout the copying process. I would say they stopped for about 30 seconds, then copied for 30 seconds, then stopped for 30 seconds, until finally done.

                          So I wonder if there is either something wrong with my two 16TB HDDs, or if something is wrong with the motherboard (because the internet also stops when I am in Windows and the HDD copying grinds to a halt), as I presume none of this can be caused by Windows, if I am using AOMEI Backupper and getting exactly the same stoppages.

                          [ATTACH type=“full” alt=“DSCN88821920.webp”]15200[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=“full” alt=“DSCN88811920.webp”]15201[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=“full” alt=“DSCN88801920.webp”]15202[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=“full” alt=“DSCN88791920.webp”]15203[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=“full” alt=“DSCN88781920.webp”]15204[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=“full” alt=“DSCN88771920.webp”]15205[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=“full” alt=“DSCN88831920.webp”]15206[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=“full” alt=“DSCN88841920.webp”]15207[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=“full” alt=“DSCN88851920.webp”]15208[/ATTACH]

                          But today, while copying exactly the same folder from H: to I: drive again, it didn’t slow down to zero, it settled at around 85MB/s for the second half, but that’s perfectly fast enough for me.

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                          • Bruce
                            PCHF Moderator
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 10702

                            #43
                            For testing purposes, I would try booting the PC into Safe Mode and doing the file transfers again and seeing if things change.
                            Maybe it’s a background process/service to blame that hopefully won’t be running when in Safe Mode.

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                            • Bruce
                              PCHF Moderator
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 10702

                              #44
                              @sisom - any news?

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                              • Bruce
                                PCHF Moderator
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 10702

                                #45
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