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  • caskin
    PCHF Member
    • May 2017
    • 181

    #1

    Microsoft Blue page quoting problems totally locked out of PC????

    Microsoft blue page appeared on screen yesterday whilst browsing Amazon,Page states โ€œYour device run into problems we are collecting data and will restart for youโ€
    I could not get past the page no matter how hard I tried. I then had a message press Ctrl +Alt+ Delete and your PC will restart, this did not work and now I am unable to connect past this page in any way.Even F8 safe start fails to operate can someone be good enough to help.Im using my daughters small lap top at moment which is so slow I can see the ink drying!! Thanks
    WOULD SOME KNOWLEDGEABLE MEMBER PLEASE ASSIST WITH THIS PROBLEM THANK YOU

    Is there any way that I can reboot my present PC files to allow me to access trouble shoot and carry out a restore?? Is there a restore disc that I can purchase which will allow me to access MY pc files??? If passible I do not want to have the hassle of starting from scratch?
    Is the microsoft blue screen genuine or have I been hit by a bug!!!
  • DENMON
    PCHF Member
    • Aug 2022
    • 59

    #2
    Hello,

    Can you provide a screenshot/photo of the blue screen so we can review it?

    Were any changes made to the computer recently? How old is the computer?

    Have you experienced a blue screen before any time recently?

    Were you able to power down the computer and restart it? (Unplug desktop or hold down the power button for 5-10 seconds until it shuts off. Make sure to get pictures of the blue screen before restarting for us to review). Once you restart the computer, are you able to boot fine, or do you get another blue screen?

    Thank you

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    • caskin
      PCHF Member
      • May 2017
      • 181

      #3
      Originally posted by DENMON
      Hello,

      Can you provide a screenshot/photo of the blue screen so we can review it?

      Were any changes made to the computer recently? How old is the computer?

      Have you experienced a blue screen before any time recently?b

      Thank you
      In a nutshell Im afraid not as I have no access to any of the PC controls.
      Only changes were latest updates. PC is at least 10yrs old but has had graphic and audio card replacements, regularly updated .model is Acer Aspire M3910
      Unable to power up totally locked out. So unable to use shift and restart to access trouble shoot?
      Yes had one identical bluescreen,which completely takes over PC allowing no access from administrator.

      One very important change this morning,when I powered up (that incidentally is turning on power to PC,PC then takes over and allows no input of.any kind.)But this morning when I turned it on, a message came up giving me the option to auto fix,after a few minutes the screen settled on trouble shoot and I thought my problem was overโ€ฆbut no. Restore would not work as it did not recognise my OS.
      Repair did not work as it could find nothing to repair.CMD prompt left me cold as I do not know how to use it.
      By the way thank you for stepping in to assist,but I think the time may have come to replace PC if you ahve any recommendations would appreciate it although cost would be a consideration.

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      • DENMON
        PCHF Member
        • Aug 2022
        • 59

        #4
        Hello,

        It is possible that because the drive is old, it is going through some data loss or data corruption, and as a result, it is effecting the operating system. It could be either that or malware I suppose. But considering the computer is old, Iโ€™m more inclined to believe in the former. Although if you suspect that it could be malware, then we can talk about it in more depth, since it can be tricky.

        Just to make sure, when you powered on the computer, did you see the screen from the attachments below? Then when you clicked โ€œRestartโ€ it said that the OS could not be found?

        When you turn on the computer, can you try pressing the โ€œDelโ€ key or โ€œF2โ€ as much as possible before the computer loads in order to access the BIOS? You should be able to access BIOS even if no drive is installed. I donโ€™t know what the screen will look like on your end exactly, but if you poke around, there should be some boot settings. I just want to make sure that the drive is recognized. If it is, and it is on the top of the boot priority, and the OS will not load anymore, then it is likely due to some form of data corruption.

        You can also try to enable secure boot in the BIOS settings and see if you are able to boot up the disk then, or if it is enabled, then try disabling it and booting up the computer again. If enabling/disabling secure boot allowed you to boot up the operating system, then I think we should talk about malware a little more.

        If you have questions on where items are in the BIOS settings, then you can google what you are looking for along with the motherboard you have, as the BIOS settings would be motherboard specific.

        If you donโ€™t want a whole new computer, then you can purchase another drive. Assuming your computer has a hard drive as opposed to a solid-state drive, it is possible to use recovery software to get some of any lost data back. Besides that, you will only be able to recover what is left on the drive (unless you have been backing up your data).

        I can give advice on purchasing drives that is compatible with your system and how to install if you would like, should it come to that.

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        • DENMON
          PCHF Member
          • Aug 2022
          • 59

          #5
          If you donโ€™t go into the BIOS, and you hit the automatic repair screen again, then if you hit โ€œAdvanced Optionsโ€, then there should be an option that talks about entering UEFI or changing UEFI firmware settings. You will want to hit that. Once it restarts, it will enter BIOS

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          • caskin
            PCHF Member
            • May 2017
            • 181

            #6
            I have done that as I am given the option of Delete for boot system and F1 for set up. unfortunately i have no way of knowing how to use them.
            Just to recap and ensure we are on the same page,the PC has began offering auto repair,when I hit this it takes me to trouble shoot programme,but NONE of the sites work. Restore states it doesnโ€™t know my OS and auto repair states no system to repair.

            At no time am I given the option to self start or restart?

            But I can bring up boot system plus set up? Can that help in any way?
            think Im also given the option to access f12 for bios from the other two prompts mentioned.
            Other than that PC is in all respects dead!

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            • caskin
              PCHF Member
              • May 2017
              • 181

              #7
              Originally posted by DENMON
              If you donโ€™t go into the BIOS, and you hit the automatic repair screen again, then if you hit โ€œAdvanced Optionsโ€, then there should be an option that talks about entering UEFI or changing UEFI firmware settings. You will want to hit that. Once it restarts, it will enter BIOS
              the only options given in advanced were restore,Cmd prompt,and delete updatesโ€ฆalthough I tried them none of them worked

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              • DENMON
                PCHF Member
                • Aug 2022
                • 59

                #8
                The key to enter the BIOS is different per motherboard/PC. If it is F12, then hit F12. You tend to need to be quick.

                If you can also access command prompt. Can you use the command โ€˜chkdsk /rโ€™. Let it run and post results.

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                • DENMON
                  PCHF Member
                  • Aug 2022
                  • 59

                  #9
                  Feel free to post pictures. They will give me a better idea of what is going on.

                  You said that you had the option to troubleshoot? Do you have access to advanced options there, or is almost every button that you are clicking on simply not responding.

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                  • DENMON
                    PCHF Member
                    • Aug 2022
                    • 59

                    #10
                    I think weโ€™ll need to try to reinstall the operating system and run drive diagnostics in the end of the day.

                    You can download the ISO here:
                    Download Windows 10

                    You can install it to a USB and try to boot from that. I have to go at the moment, but Iโ€™ll keep checking the thread.

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                    • caskin
                      PCHF Member
                      • May 2017
                      • 181

                      #11
                      Im unable to post pictures as all keys are inoperable,I can access the screen boots up,if as you say IM quick to access the f12 key.
                      I can only access cmd prompt as and when the PC decides to go into auto repair,its only done that twice in the last 24hrs!!!
                      I have no control over any of it.
                      If I go into bios mode via f12 how will that help me?
                      As and when the auto repair screen comes up I will attempt chkdsk ,if that fails then i will attempt to reinstall OS from your link,thanks will get back tomorrow.Really appreciate your patience.

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                      • DENMON
                        PCHF Member
                        • Aug 2022
                        • 59

                        #12
                        You can take pictures from your phone.

                        I think checking BIOS is less important now that I understand the issue a little more, but if you can access BIOS, I would still try changing the secure boot settings just to rule it out.

                        If you shut down the computer after it boots (or loads the blue screen in your case) two or three times within a short period of time, eventually it will show a different screen saying that windows did not load correctly. You can then click the button for advanced options > troubleshoot > advanced options > Then you have access to UEFI and command prompt from there. I donโ€™t remember if that is the exact pathway but look for those buttons.

                        If you can use chkdsk then it will reveal if the disk is dying or not.

                        Then if it says chkdsk is in the green, then something happened to the operating system that we will need to investigate, so reinstalling it would be the best option here.

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                        • DENMON
                          PCHF Member
                          • Aug 2022
                          • 59

                          #13
                          If you cannot access command prompt, then at least reinstalling Windows will give temporary access to your files. My only concern is that if your disk is actually degraded, then the more read/write operations we perform, the worse the disk will get.

                          Do you have your important data/files backed up?

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                          • caskin
                            PCHF Member
                            • May 2017
                            • 181

                            #14
                            We both had the same idea as I have taken some pics on phone and will attach as soon as i can save to daughters laptop and then send them to you.
                            I have tried repeated on/off manoeuvres with little success,but each morniing when I switch on it goes into auto repair mode and finishes at advanced repair settings.But dont get too excited as none of them will respond,system restore states no known OS.
                            Cmd prompt states cannot carry out chkdsk/r as program over written?
                            However I tried just chkdsk. which brought up 2 pages of info???Ending with carry out chkdsk/F
                            which I did, but again it came back cannot run chkdsk/F as programme over written???
                            But the pages of material displayed I photographed and will pass them on to you. One of my biggest difficulties is having to use this small and very slow laptop!!
                            So will download photos to laptop then hopefully send them as an attachmentโ€ฆonce again thanks for staying with me

                            reply may take some time,so please bear with me Cheers and Merry Christmasโ€ฆRegards Derek

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                            • caskin
                              PCHF Member
                              • May 2017
                              • 181

                              #15
                              Photos of screen hopefullly attached Cheers

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