LiveKernelEvent 141 + dwm.exe - appcrash - Kernelbase.dll

[Marialynne]

Display Problem (NEWS):
So you know the display problem I showed you? well I got a crash and display problem next reboot. For screen I use my LG but I also have a TV.
So while I had this display problem, I switch of screen to the TV, no problem anymore, then switch again to LG no problem anymore.
So weird.
I must say I have an old screen with the blue plug, but I use an adaptater that convert to HDMI. On both of the screen bc TV has HDMI possibility but I don’t have an HDMI cabel from now.

Btw when eso crash the error is StackHash_d4a1.

[Malnutrition]

Could you upload your dump files? I am curious as what they point to. I am not a hardware person, I was just going to check the dump files. You are in good hands with PYRO. I have no other input on this thread, just to check the dumps.

This link explains how to grab your minidump files.

[Marialynne]

OH my God it did it !

I was gonna tell you that even if minidump is activated, windows never does it on crash but checked just to be sure and I have now ONEE mini dump ! (so many crash but just one minidump :'c)

Then I’m gonna show it to you and also look if I can find some google-able errors in it.

So today I tried something new again, could be the reason it dumped for once.
Got the usual error :
[ul]
[li]while gaming (elder scrolls online)[/li][li]black screen (it seems it is ‘no signal’)[/li][li]still music[/li][li]fans goes berserk - speed is superior to what I can get when I put maximum with my remote - (not the fans of GPU or any componant, the fans just for the air flows inside of PC)[/li][li](sometimes it does the sound of windows unplug external device, I suspect it could be the screen)[/li][/ul]
Bc of this :

Display Problem (NEWS):
So you know the display problem I showed you? well I got a crash and display problem next reboot. For screen I use my LG but I also have a TV.
So while I had this display problem, I switch of screen to the TV, no problem anymore, then switch again to LG no problem anymore.
So weird.
I must say I have an old screen with the blue plug, but I use an adaptater that convert to HDMI. On both of the screen bc TV has HDMI possibility but I don’t have an HDMI cabel from now.

(btw blue cabel should be named VGA I think.)
I thought, well the game is still running, let’s change the screen while crashing, maybe it will work.

LG → TV (both VGA with adaptater)

The music stopped to a weird constant sound. I shutted down computer afterwards.

To Pyro about the Trimm : I read again your post and you actually said explicitly windows does it. I’m stupid, sorry :X3:

Thanks !

[Malnutrition]

The dump points to your display driver.

Dump: 112722-8593-01.dmp (27.11.2022 08:14:47)
Code: 0x133 - DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION
Process: System, probably caused by: nvlddmkm.sys
Third-party modules in the stack: nvlddmkm.sys
Third-party modules in the Raw Stack: e2f.sys, nvlddmkm.sys
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0x133_ISR_nvlddmkm!unknown_function

Try removing with DDU in safe mode. Then update your Nvidia Driver. [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]nvlddmkm.sys
Also, update your Intel Drivers. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...rt/detect.html [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]e2f.sys
Then test and report back to @Pyro[/COLOR][/COLOR]

[Marialynne]

I already did it once before and twice after reinstall of windows. But I’ll try again, maybe the clean install of nvidea is not so good as DDU, I trust you anyways, maybe bc I’m so desesperate.

Just before I was searching to check the health of my GPU. So I know I have a Geforce RTX 2060 (asked dxdiag again). I use Geforce Experience, but some times I tried directly on the site and it didn’t help.

Nvidea site : oh yes, you’re here for the driver of the RTX 4060. Bruh. Guess it is nice to check if Nvidia auto-detection works or not.

How do I check if the intel detection make sense? Maybe I look what my processor contain for an Intel Graphics…

Okay so download time is like 2hours so I’ll post this now and keep you updated.

[Marialynne]

So I did install clean the nvidea driver.

For intel I forgot that device manager don’t see intel graphic, probably bc my GPU was detected and intel graphics desactivated. So it don’t want to install bc cannot detect the device.

I’ll go play to see if it works better now.

[Pyro]

You can disconnect and unplug your GPU (taking it out of the system and disconnecting it from the motherboard).

Doing this will allow you to plug into the motherboard instead of the GPU and will show that the GPU is overdrawing from the PSU since it is not a sufficient unit.

A new power supply is your best option, please find a unit to test with or purchase a quality one from a retailer with a good return policy (We like buyer’s insurance.)

You say you have ran DDU, please make sure you followed these steps when you did, the order in which you do things is important:

Run DDU and download a fresh installer executable from here.

An important note: You MUST download the driver executable and disconnect your computer from the internet before running DDU, otherwise Windows will automatically download drivers (which you don’t want).

Once you have ran DDU in safe mode, boot up into a normal Windows session (ensuring that you aren’t connected to the internet for even a moment) and run the NVIDIA installer.

Restart your computer from the power menu and see if this helps.

[Marialynne]

Hey !

For now I didn’t had bugs. But I also stopped the fan bc I was just doing office use (my fans are noisy) and forgot to launch them again for gaming.

About the PSU : something is bothering me; I see the 80+ sticker on my PSU from here, but I think I didn’t missread the model. So you don’t mean all 80+ are good? It’s important that I understand to not buy wrongly :X3:
I still wanna test a friend’s PSU before buying a new one, it’s to help me see what I exactly want. (it could also be that I’m more interrested in limiting my GPU performance so it use less energy even if it’s less powerful, to have time to gather money and all. Is it possible?)

Sometimes it works for a few hours and next time bug again so I’ll keep you updated if I get new bugs !

Thannkkss ^^

[Pyro]

Keeping temps under control is very important for gaming, parts will make themselves work less in an effort to prevent damage, something to keep an eye on.

I could put an 80+ sticker on anything, but it doesn’t mean anything unless it’s 80+ certified gold or higher, these are the requirements for a gaming machine. Look back at those resources I linked, Lumion talks about why gaming machines need 80+ Gold or higher and the PSU Database explains why models are good or bad iirc.

You could “undervolt” your graphics card, but with that power supply I would just remove the graphics card and replace the PSU as soon as possible, it’s not worth the risk in my opinion.

[Marialynne]

Hello !

Okay, then I’ll see for the PSU.

I discovered something interresting. In the bios not all the fan are seen, but still work somehow ! It will be something more to explore for me, waiting for my new PSU to arrive and be installed. (Well, still need to choose one)

For the People who read this post to help them find the problem, here is my experience :

• Check Windows and driver
• Check if your computer is really well built and all connections still well plug
• If the problem is still here, could be defect componant.

I suppose this subject will be closed before Christmas, so you can see on my profile if I open new thread it means problem wasn’t solved and you can read it for more informations.

Until next time !

[Pyro]

If you have fans plugged into a hub (I don’t recall you mentioning one), it will only show a single fan header/fan as active.

[Marialynne]

Hello !
So, after last crash I restarted my computer as usual, and I had a little line of green points after bios so I cannot even go in windows

I searched again what was the name of the ‘box’ of my computer and found it !

It seems to be a ‘BitFenix Prodigy M 2022 ARGB’ white with leds.
Btw yeah, I have so kind of little hub for fans + led. Is it important?

So now I’m on my phone to write this and I try to open and see what’s in my computer with help of youtube haha (maybe I should see how to unbuilt computer instead of how to built one) trying to plug out my gpu but still stuck (and I don’t wanna force bc I don’t want to break it so I’m going slowly)

[Pyro]

Did you get an adequate power supply in the computer?

[Marialynne]

Hello,

(First I’ll let you know that I access Windows again ! Could evenplay a little before a crash. Bc I could see Bios loading before have green points line and be stuck, I restarted, accessed the bios and put it in ‘recommanded parameters’ and there was it working again ! But I didn’t actually modify parameters in the bios so it’s not really logic… Anyways ! )

Well I’m actually still looking into PSU. There is something I don’t understand, it’s in the tier list of psu, those single/multi rails and others things, what does that mean? Bc I was thinking maybe I can choose one that is in the tier list then I can be sure it’s good but so much parameters…
Should I take a Tier A PSU? to have a good one I suppose Tier A, B, and C would be good. I don’t have much money, so maybe not A, especially bc I see a lot of Platinium/Titanium here…
Btw it’s always the same size or is there a chance it’s to big or something to fit in the computer?
And what would be the right price for a PSU like you said, something between 100-150 is ok? I see models like you said but there is sometime a difference in price that is noticeable for me (50) and I’m not sure why…
Oh ! And also do you think I should take a 650W (like recommended in your link for my GPU) or 700W like just a little more to be sure?
About my way of choosing it, I think I would try to meet all criterium and then take the lowest price.

Criterium being :
[ul]
[li]Modular[/li][li]80 + Gold[/li][li]Corsair or EVGA or Seasonic[/li][li]650W minimal[/li][/ul]
Am I right?

P.S. : I have already a lot of LEDs in my computer, but then I saw a Corsair PSU with LEDs xD What do you think? edit : no wait it is bronze, not gold ! Then no

[Marialynne]

So I tried to find the answer myself for how much Watt I need and it didn’t work :

Youtube : They say either use a calculator (MSI which look closed or BeQuiet! but I’m stuck on this one) I also tried Corsair but then they just recommand a lots of model between 550-850W which is not very precise OR to use a formula to calculate : TDP CPU + 2TDP GPU (add 30% if overclocked) but then I got (125+2160)*1.3 = 578W which seems not much (I don’t overclock I think, except the RAM, but I wanted to be sure)
Then on your site they say for my GPU it needs 650W ;

I’ve got to express my feelings I’m completly lost. ???

Btw maybe useless but my GPU has 6Go in VRam it seems. Just discovered that.