Cannot install Windows 10 from DVD or USB-stick

[Amoranemix2]

I try again METHOD 1 from post 28. (The internal HDD is connected.) It is about removing write protection via the command prompt.
This time I type chkdsk C: /f /r /x

and a miracle happens. Something actually works ! It says the fle system is NTFS (suggesting C is the right drive letter) and that the volume label is reserved by the system (that’s the name C I suspect).
Some checking was done in 5 stages and no problems were found. “No further action is required.”
Great. Now the write protection is supposed to have been removed.

deaning with diskpart still doesn’t work.

If I give the command
chkdsk /f then I get the previous error from post 26, where I said “Cannot exit current drive”, which should have been “Cannot lock current drive.”, happens.

@ Rustys :
Trying to delete the primary partition of the SSD (now again with internal HDD disconnected) produces the message Window titled “Windows Setup” with message in Dutch : “We cannot delete the selected partition. [Error: 0x80070017].”

In Ubuntu I tried copying and deleting stuff fo/from a few locations on the SSD. Moving stuff to on the SSD doesn’t work either.

@ PeterOz :
The problem seems to be broader than the SSD. Why else can’t I install Windows on the free partition of the internal HDD ?
I don’t have any other computer to fit the SSD in. If it is fine I might as well use it as a slave on the main PC with Windows on the HDD, if that ever works.
I’ll try to format the SSD with Ubunto tomorrow afternoon.
Tonight I am copying more files from the internal to the external HDD.

[PeterOz]

Why else can’t I install Windows on the free partition of the internal HDD

It depends on how you bios is set in uefi or legacy
that then depends on what format the hdd is mbr or uefi.

If bios is in legacy mode the hdd has to be mbr
If bios is uefi the hdd has to be gpt.

How is the bios set

[Amoranemix2]

I don’t have time to check now and I don’t know.
UEFI is mentioned in the BIOS and I have stated before there is an UEFI version of the Windows USB-installer, the one that can’t boot. It is in hope to solve that that I updated the BIOS. It didn’t solve it.

Some of the error messages indicate the HDD is partitioned MBR. Why can’t the Windows installer change it to whatever it needs ?

So the BIOS would have to work in legacy mode. I’ll try to find that setting this afternoon.

[PeterOz]

So the BIOS would have to work in legacy mode

Yes for mbr

UEFI is mentioned in the BIOS and I have stated before there is an UEFI version of the Windows USB-installer

In morden bios they have uefi and legacy
It is how it is set. Updating the bios does nothing. It is the way it is set.
If legacy mode look for csm and secure boot and fast boot
from step 6 here How to Disable UEFI and Enable Legacy/CSM Boot Support

Why can’t the Windows installer change it to whatever it needs ?

Because I did not write the code

[Amoranemix2]

WHy doesn’t the UEFI version of the installation-USB-stick boot ?

"Many computers with UEFI firmware will allow you to enable a legacy BIOS compatibility mode. In this mode, the UEFI firmware functions as a standard BIOS instead of UEFI firmware. This can help improve compatibility with older operating systems that weren’t designed with UEFI in mind — Windows 7, Ubuntu, Linux, for example. In this article I walkthrough how to disable UEFI and enable Legacy/CSM boot support. "
The article mentions older operating systems as the reason for the legacy mode. It doesn’t mention Windows 10 and it doesn’t mention MBR partition. Moreover, if legacy or gpt paritionng is a requirement, why did it work before ?

The ‘Advanced options’ in the installer vary. The UEFI settings are now missing, both for the DVD and the USB installer. So I disconnect the internal HDD, but that doesn’t make any difference. I had already tried that option before I posted here to see what it did, and as far as I remember it didn’t work.

I managed to make my phone and old computer talk. Here is a picture of a BIOS tab :

[ATTACH type=“full”]9226[/ATTACH]

So it would seem it is already set to legacy BIOS, which would explain why the UEFI boot options don’t work, but doesn’t explain why the MBR partitioned disks don’t work.

I set 'Storage Boot Option Control to ‘UEFI Only’ and test what happens.
The computer can still boot from SanDisk Extreme Pro 0. Deleting primary partition of SSD still doesn’t work. (The HDD is disconnected.)

Booting from the UEFI version still doesn’t work. So changing that setting does not seem to have made a difference. What settings should I try ?

I set ‘Storage Boot Option Control’ to ‘Disabled’ and conntect the internal HDD.
I try to format the SSD with Ubuntu by following the article PeterOz referred to in post 29. Writing on the SSD still doesn’t seem to work.
Ubuntu says the SSD has an MBR partitioning.
I select NTFS formatting.

“Error formatting volume
Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)”

The article recommends trying GPartted.
I start GParted from the Dash. I immediately get a window with the message : “Error fsyncing/closing /dev/nvme0n1p1: No data available” with the buttons ‘Retry’ and ‘Ignore’. Both reproduce the same Window. I can’t even quit the program.
In ‘On this Computer’ both the SSD and the internal HDD are gone.

I restart the computer and load Ubuntu again Both drives are back and nothing seems to have changed. I try GParted again and get the same.

What can I try next ?

• I can try wiping the internal HDD to install Windows there. However, Windows will be slower, but maybe I can repair the SSD from there.
• By a new SSD. However, I have no use for the ‘old’ SSD and it may not even work.

I don’t have another computer that can accomodate an SSD. Any suggestions ?

[PeterOz]

Legacy mode is for old equipment not jus old windows versions.
Windows 7 was able to boot in uefi. Windows 10 and 11 both boot in legacy mode.

WHy doesn’t the UEFI version of the installation-USB-stick boot ?

So are you saying it does not boot the computer or it won’t install on the computer - 2 different things.
Have you copied all the data you need of the hdd?

[Amoranemix2]

Trying to boot from ‘UEFI: SanDisk Extreme Pro 0, Partition 1’ produces this :
[ATTACH type=“full”]9235[/ATTACH]

So you don’t understand the behaviour of the PC either.

As far as I know I got what is relevant, but of for some things it is only when they are gone that I will know that I needed them, so perhaps I should copy seemingly superflous stuff like ‘Program Files’ as well.

[PeterOz]

Program Files

No you need the programs from original source
Lets rwmake your usb. You need a minimum 8gb stick.
This link is all you need to make the usb.
Then download the windows 10 tool – Minimum 8gig USB required

Download Windows 10

and use that to reinstall windows.

Have only one drive connected

*** NB A reinstall will delete all data from the drive***

[PeterOz]

In your bios picture - Post #35 you have 5 drives showing.
There should be only 2 drives

1. The windows boot usb
2. The internal hdd.
   Nothing else.

[PeterOz]

Remake the usb with the link I gave you.
Choose create installation media for another PC
This will create the usb you do not need any other program.
Insert and boot.
If it does not boot from usb
Go back to bios
go to the save and exit screen
Under Boot override
select the usb Press enter
It should then boot from the usb if it is made correctly.

[Amoranemix2]

I’ll refer to the old computer as the E 8600, as that is its CPU and the new, broken one as the Ryzen 5.

The installation USB-stick makes up two drives in the Boot Manager. Thus
SSD + USB-stick = 3 drives
How am I supposed to get to two drives ?

So I’ll try create a Windows 10 installation USB-stick for the third time. Maybe that will resolve the above problem.

• The First time (a week ago) failed
• The second time was FAT32 and successful but reduced USB-size from 128 GB to 32GB.
• The third time I formatted to exFAT. It was a hassle because I didn’t have 8GB free on my C drive. It failed after half an hour : “There was a problem running this tool. We’re not sure what happened, but we’re unable to run this tool on your PC. If you continue experiencing problems., reference the error code when contacting customer support. Error code: 0x80070005 - 0xA0003”
  So I shut down the E 8600, had the brilliant idea to install more RAM and had to deal with the consequences of that mistake till I had to leave this afternoon. It boots again now, but I din’t work much on the Ryzen 5.
• Attempt 4 failed as well after having finished, with the same error message.

I’ll make an attempt 5. If that fails, I can try starting Windows Vista - the OS is installed on the E 8600 - and try making a Windows 10 installation USB-stick in that environment.

[PeterOz]

SSD + USB-stick = 3 drives

SSD =1 + usb= 1,
1+1 = 2 in my maths.
What computer are you currently using to make the windows 10 on?

The second time was FAT32 and successful but reduced USB-size from 128 GB to 32GB

Do not worry what size the usb stick is or what formatit is.
The creation tool will format the usb stick to what it needs
You do not have to format it.
Size of usb has to be 8GB or over. It will format it to 8gb do not worry.
After windows is installed you can reformat usb to the original size AFTER.

[Amoranemix2]

SSD =1 + usb= 1, [1]
1+1 = 2 in my maths.
What computer are you currently using to make the windows 10 on? [2]

[1] In that case in the BIOS picture of post 35 there are 4 drives showing : the DVD-ROM reader (listed twice), the Windows USB (twice), the SSD and the external HD.
[2] The Windows 10 installation USB-stick is made on the E 8600.

The option for Settings for UEFI firmware is back. Clicking that says (in Dutch) : “Restart your PC again to change the settings of UEFI-firmware” and the only option is to restart. That restarts and enters the BIOS.

STATUS now on Ryzen 5 : connected are SSD and Win 10 USB. In BIOS Storage Boot Option Control (see picture post 35, where it is ‘Legacy Only’) is ‘Disabled’.

• Install on primary (465 GB) partition : FAILED because (in Dutch) : “Cannot install Windows on this disk. The selected disk contain an MBR-partition table. On EFI-systems you can install Windows only on GPT-disks.” Setting ‘Storage Boot Option Control’ to ‘Legacy Only’ : same. Setting it to ‘UEFI Only’ : same. Setting it back to ‘Disabled’
• Delete of primary partition : FAILED because (in Dutch) : "We cannot delete the selected partition. [Error: 0x80070017]. Formatting : same. Setting ‘Storage Boot Option Control’ to ‘Legacy Only’ : same. Setting it to ‘UEFI Only’ : same. Setting it back to ‘Disabled’
• Running Checkdisk in command prompt : FAILED because drive is write protected. Setting ‘Storage Boot Option Control’ to ‘Legacy Only’ : same. Setting it to ‘UEFI Only’ : same. Setting it back to ‘Disabled’
• Cleaning SSD with Diskpart : FAILED because : “Diskpart has encountered an error: Data error (cyclical redundance control)”. Setting ‘Storage Boot Option Control’ to ‘Legacy Only’ : same. Setting it to ‘UEFI Only’ : same. Setting it back to ‘Disabled’

[PeterOz]

Use your HDD
I am 99% certian your SSD is DEAD
If uefi booting make hdd gpt
If legacy booting make disk mbr

[Amoranemix2]

STATUS now on Ryzen 5 : connected are internal HDD and Win 10 USB. In BIOS Storage Boot Option is ‘Disabled’.

Interesting observation : both the ‘UEFI: SanDisk Extreme Pro 0, Partition 1’ and the ’ SanDisk Extreme Pro 0’ load. (I haven’t checked which loaded in previous post.) Since the partition table is MBR, I choose to try with the ordinary one.

• Install Windows 10 Pro on free partition : FAILED because (in Dutch) : “Cannot make a partition on disk 0. De error has occurred during the preparation of the partition that has been selected. Error code: 0x8/0004005” Setting ‘Storage Boot Option Control’ to ‘Legacy Only’ : same. Setting it to ‘UEFI Only’ : same. Setting it back to ‘Disabled’. Booting from the UEFI Sandisk : same. Installing on occupied partition 1 (with UEFI SanDisk) : it is working !

(I am omitting part of the adventure for brevity’s sake.)

There are apparently 2 WIndows now : one ‘Op volume 2’ and one ‘[empty]’ . ‘Op’ is Dutch for ‘on’. I click on the second one.
Apparently now there is trouble. The blue screen reads (in Dutch) :
“Repair” [title]
“Your PC/apparatus must be repaired” [subtitle]
"A required apparatus is not connected or not accessible.
Error code: 0xc000000e
You must use the repair helper programs. If you don’t have installationmedia (like a disk or an USB device) available, contact the system manager of your PC of the manufacturer of your PC/apparatus.

Press on Enter to try again
Press on F8 for startup settings
Press F9 if you want to use a different operating system"

I press F8. After about 0.5 seconds I get the same screen again. F8 again. Same, but after 0.1 s.
I press Enter. After about 0.2 s I get the same screen again. Enter again. Same again.
I press F9. Windows is starting, I suspect from the HDD and I am back at [li]. Now it continues without waiting for me to choose. Windows is loading again. After a few minutes of patience, I am being asked setting, like where my region. The correct keyboard (Belgian comma) is not listed although it was in the installation USB keyboard listing. So I pick Belgian (point).[/li]Connecting to a network fails. Then I get advertising about the advantages of internet.
Windows starts again. I am back at [li]. It continues before I chose. Connecting to a network fails again. I really should do it though, so I am told.[/li]I am asked my account name and I mistyped. There is no back button.
Then there is services.
I am greeted with an almost empty desktop
At first sight on drive C my data is still there.

I reinstalled the SSD. The Disk is write protected. I don’t have access to personal folder because lacking right permissions. Is this worth trying to salvage (like looking up to get rid of write protection) ?

I remain with a few question.

1. I installed Windows with the UEFI SanDisk USB i.s.o. the ordonary SanDisk. I also now notice ‘Storage Boot Option Control’ is set to ‘UEFI Only’, while I had set it to ‘Disabled’. The drive is MBR. Is that a problem ?
2. Can I count on this installation being a good one ? When starting Windows, there is a blue screen with two options, now they it was ‘Op volume 2’ and ‘Op volume 3’. The last one seems to be a not yet finished installation. Now I get BSOD ‘REGISTRY ERROR’. I try again. Same result.
   There is also the problem of that free partition. It was meant as a backup for a new installation and it failed.
3. I want to have two internal drives anyway. The reason is mainly as a backup. The last time I didn’t actually install an OS on the free partition, but I suspect this time I will. Better it be on two different drives. So, is the HDD OS good enough, or should I use this installation as backup and the primary on the (new) SSD ?
4. What should I do with all the programs that were conserved ? Some of them actually still work.