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  • PeterOz
    PCHF Technical Response Team
    • Mar 2021
    • 4191

    #16
    At least you are learning @Bruce golden rule
    backup, Backup, BACKUP.
    if you backed up yesterday, would todayโ€™s PC crash just be a mild annoyance?
    a great free program is Macrium Reflect.

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    • Amoranemix2
      PCHF Member
      • Mar 2022
      • 64

      #17
      I have a backup disk. It broke about two weeks ago. My foot hooked on the power table and it fell to the floor from 50 cm high. I should have panicked then.

      Deleting the pratition using the USB-installer didnโ€™t work. Error : 0x80070017
      Clean in the command prompt didnโ€™t work (after semic-colon message is in Dutch) : Diskpart has encountered an error: Data error (cyclic redundancy control). See the system Event Log for more information."
      Convert gpt doesnโ€™t work either.

      I have read a bit in we couldn't delete the selected partition. error 0x80070017 - Microsoft Q&A
      He says some things about EUFI and CSM that I donโ€™t understand and therefore havenโ€™t done.

      In the boot menu there are two boot devices listed from the USB-stick
      • UEFI: SanDisk Extreme Pro 0, Parition 1
      • SanDisk Extreme Pro 0

      The first one canโ€™t even boot. Iโ€™ll try doing the same with the WIndows installation DVD, which probably wonโ€™t work. Then Iโ€™ll try updating the BIOS via an USB-stick.

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      • Amoranemix2
        PCHF Member
        • Mar 2022
        • 64

        #18
        Updating the BIOS was a hassle. But now I should have the latest stable version.

        Now I canโ€™t get to the boot menu anymore. Maybe it is just a matter of figuring out what button to press, but I have to go now.

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        • Amoranemix2
          PCHF Member
          • Mar 2022
          • 64

          #19
          I try Esc, F2, F8, F10, F12 and del. So I changed the boot order in the BIOS, because the first one was UEFI: SanDIsk Extreme Pro 0, Partition 1, the one that didnโ€™t work before. I change the first one to Sandisk Extreme Pro 0. I try the same keys again, to no avail.

          I just loads the WIndows 10 Setup. Deleting the parition still doesnโ€™t work. Diskpart still doesnโ€™t work either.

          In the BIOS I set CSM support to disabled, but that limits boot options to the UEFI Sandisk that doesnโ€™t work., so I turn it back on.

          Any suggestions ?

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          • PeterOz
            PCHF Technical Response Team
            • Mar 2021
            • 4191

            #20
            show a pic of diskpart - list disk

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            • PeterOz
              PCHF Technical Response Team
              • Mar 2021
              • 4191

              #21
              You need to slow down.
              You keep doing things like updating the bios which then added to the problem
              Originally posted by Amoranemix2
              Now I canโ€™t get to the boot menu anymore.
              I know it can be frustrating not having access to your pc.
              But these things at times are slow.

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              • Amoranemix2
                PCHF Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 64

                #22
                What is the picture for ? The computer does not see my phone.

                List dsk returns :
                Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt


                Disk 0 Online 465 GB 1024 KB
                Disk 1 Online 119 GB 87 GB

                <---- That is not the formatting I reproduced !

                There should be 167 GB free on the SSD. Disk 1 must be the USB-stick

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                • PeterOz
                  PCHF Technical Response Team
                  • Mar 2021
                  • 4191

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Amoranemix2
                  What is the picture for
                  As in take a picture so I can see what is listed.
                  What you typed will do.

                  Is Disk 0 465GB the disk you want to install windows on?

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                  • Amoranemix2
                    PCHF Member
                    • Mar 2022
                    • 64

                    #24
                    Yes. That is the SSD drive on which WIndows 10 is installed.

                    Something has changed : In Windows repair I now have the option to choose keyboard settings first from a long list.

                    I tried reconnecting the HDD, to see what happens then. If I now try to install on the SSD on the primary partition, I get the โ€œWindows Setupโ€ message window (in Dutch) : โ€œCannot initialize te distribution engine again. Start the installation again if you want to install Windows.โ€ Before it a Window about the preparation appeared for about 1 s. Trying again gives the same result.

                    Another thing has changed. I can get into the boot meny with F12. The window for pressing is narrow. I may have missed it before.

                    Trying to delete or format the primary partition of the SSD gives the same result as yesterday. (Error: 0x80070017)

                    Clean command of Diskpart gives the same result as yesterday.

                    Trying to install on the free partition of the HDD still doesnโ€™t work.

                    I dismounted the SSD to whether it fits in a Dell computer from 2012. No.

                    WIthout the SSD I try to install Win 10 on the free partition of the HDD. Still error code 0x80004005.

                    Is wiping the HDD to try installing Windows on there a reasonable option ? A drawback is that will probably be slower to copy data and Windows on there will be slower. Moreover, it probably wonโ€™t work anyway.

                    Could Ubuntu diagnose, wipe and possibly repair the SSD ?
                    Are there adaptor pieces to connect an internal SSD externally to computer (like a modern Macbook) ?

                    My new external HDD has finally arrived the the collection point. Iโ€™ll fetch it.

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                    • PeterOz
                      PCHF Technical Response Team
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 4191

                      #25
                      You should have 1 disk only connected when installing windows
                      Boot from usb again and get a cmd prompt.
                      [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]Chkdisk /f [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]enter
                      [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]Diskpart [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]enter
                      [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]Select disk (enter ssd number) [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]enter
                      [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]clean [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]enter
                      [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]create partition primary [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]enter
                      [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]select partition 1 [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]enter
                      [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]active [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]enter
                      [COLOR=rgb(243, 121, 52)]format fs=ntfs [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]enter

                      Try to install again[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]

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                      • Amoranemix2
                        PCHF Member
                        • Mar 2022
                        • 64

                        #26
                        I disconnect the internal HDD.

                        When I command chkdsk /f, I get back :

                        โ€œThe type of the file system is NTFS.
                        Cannot lock current drive.
                        Windows cannot run disk checking on this volume.โ€

                        The SSD is NTFS formatted. The USB-stick is FAT32 formatted.

                        Diskpart clean still doesnโ€™t work. Create partition primary doesnโ€™t work either.

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                        • Rustys
                          PCHF Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7862

                          #27
                          Can you boot to the USB drive to install windows?

                          With only the Drive that you want to install Windows on connected.
                          Yes then when you get to this screen DELETE the partitions then Click Next
                          Windows will create and take care of everything that it needs to.

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                          • Amoranemix2
                            PCHF Member
                            • Mar 2022
                            • 64

                            #28
                            I tried some solutions described here : Solved Windows Cannot Run Disk Checking On This Volume

                            METHOD 1 : โ€œCannot open volume for direct access.โ€
                            But I used the letter E as the article said. I suspect I should use C.

                            METHOD 2 : โ€œDiskpart failed to clear disk attributes.โ€

                            Yes, I can load the Windows installer from a USB-stick with only one internal disk connected.

                            Rustys : โ€œYes then when you get to this screen DELETE the partitions then Click Next
                            Windows will create and take care of everything that it needs to.โ€
                            If only it were so easy.

                            In Ubuntu I canโ€™t write to the SSD. For example, when I try to paste something, a message window says : โ€œCould not paste files. Permissions do not allow to paste files in this directory.โ€

                            I tried checking the diskโ€™s health in Ubuntu, but apparently the demonstration version is too barebone for that.

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                            • PeterOz
                              PCHF Technical Response Team
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 4191

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Amoranemix2
                              demonstration version is too barebone for that.
                              That is not a demo version that is the full ubuntu.
                              You could run off the usb just like it was installed.
                              I think you have to face the fact your ssd is dead.
                              Three options left.
                              1. Format the drive with ubuntu How to Format a Hard Drive Using Ubuntu (with Pictures) - wikiHow
                              2. Take the ssd out and slave into another computer run chkdisk and format.
                              3. Copy all data of hdd. Format Hdd and install windows

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                              • Rustys
                                PCHF Member
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7862

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Amoranemix2
                                Rustys : โ€œYes then when you get to this screen DELETE the partitions then Click Next
                                Windows will create and take care of everything that it needs to.โ€
                                If only it were so easy.
                                What does it do any error messages?

                                When writing the files using Ubuntu where exactly are you attempting to write the files to?

                                Other than that, have to agree with @PeterOz that the SSD may have gone bad

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