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  • phillpower2
    PCHF Administrator
    • Sep 2016
    • 15209

    #16
    The Corsair PSU I would never have used but the XFX if still in warranty I would not hesitate to use it.

    It is the age of the XFX PSU and nothing else, put yourself in the position of Peter or I and you would understand that we have to make members aware of all risks and will not compromise ourselves or the reputation of the forum by suggesting anything that has the potential to cause harm, we provide the info and the OP decides upon the risk.

    You are welcome btw

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    • Lustro
      PCHF Member
      • Nov 2021
      • 37

      #17
      I see your point, and it goes without saying that whatever happens it’s 100% my responsibility and I wouldn’t blame any other! I’m glad to know it’s its age, at least that means that the other parameters are okay, unlike the corsair I’ve been using

      At this point, I have an idea of what to do and will as I can. I will change into the xfx psu and then, I think within this year, change into a new, bought psu. I’ll also keep in mind what Peter said, as these things can happen because of a hiccup and sometimes it’s only that and nothing else, as long as they are not frequent.

      In the meantime, this post can be closed and marked as solved! If even after changing power supply units I’ll keep having these problems, I’ll ask to reopen this thread to, at the very least, let you know that the psu was not it, but I want to stay optimist and say that this post will stay closed indicating that changing psu solved it, or that it was something random that hasn’t happened anymore.

      Thank you once more phillpower2 and peteroz for following this journey of a thread. Wish you the best!

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      • phillpower2
        PCHF Administrator
        • Sep 2016
        • 15209

        #18
        You are a decent sort Lustro but unfortunately there are too many out there that are not, seen it many a time when someone has post on multiple forums, not followed the advice given on any of them and then tried to blame each of the forums when they have acted on their own and as a consequence something went badly wrong.

        If you intend to swap in the XFX PSU in the coming days let us know and the thread can stay open, do stick to what was suggested though;
        Originally posted by phillpower2
        Remove the add on GPU, swap in the XFX PSU, hook the screen up to the appropriate video port on the MB, reassemble and test.

        If the above goes ok, ask yourself if you are prepared to risk putting the add on GPU back in and then testing with just the one screen connected to the GPU, these are the two least power demanding options that you can try.
        Doing the above should give you an idea if it is the add on GPU that has issues.

        You are welcome

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        • Lustro
          PCHF Member
          • Nov 2021
          • 37

          #19
          Thanks as always; it’s sad but I’m also not that surprised that things like the one you mentioned happen, one should often remind himself that this is all free help to be grateful for…

          Anyway yes, I intend to swap in the xfx psu! I think that will be happening a little later this week though, and so because there could be a bit of a delay until that update I proposed to close it and reopen it in case of necessity. But if it’s fine to keep this open for some days then I will surely update this thread on how the swap in went, when I’ll get to do it!

          I will do as you suggested; a question has crossed my mind: when I’ll have to test the psu without connecting the external gpu, can I, rather than removing the gpu from the pcie slot on the motherboard, leave it phisically there and just not connect the psu’s cables into it, or would that be unsafe? I know this sounds a bit silly but if I can avoid touching the gpu besides connecting and disconnetting the power cables I’d rather do that. If removing the gpu from the motherboard is safer I will surely do that instead though.

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          • PeterOz
            PCHF Technical Response Team
            • Mar 2021
            • 4191

            #20
            Remove the power cords will be safe enough
            Originally posted by phillpower2
            You are a decent sort Lustro
            I agree with phillpower2

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            • Lustro
              PCHF Member
              • Nov 2021
              • 37

              #21
              You guys are too kind
              Originally posted by PeterOz
              Remove the power cords will be safe enough
              Roger that! That’s good news; will report back once the swap-in will be done!

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              • Lustro
                PCHF Member
                • Nov 2021
                • 37

                #22
                Hey, I have an update! Around an hour ago I finished the swap-in. The xfx PSU had quite a bit of dust in it, I removed what I could although it was not much, and I was really tempted to remove the plate in order to properly clean it - but I also know it’s something one should only do if he knows what he’s doing, and so I decided against it.

                It was a bit of trouble and cables are all around, but it works and I don’t think the lack of cable management is an issue. I did as phillpower2 suggested, and it worked, so I decided to risk it, and now it’s working with the gpu as well. So as of now I have my “normal build” minus one monitor. What now? I’m going to use it normally, but if you think I should test by doing something specific or try reattaching the second monitor I will. So far so good.

                One little thing I noticed is that my gpu was weirdly cool. As in, I started checking temperatures (with “hwinfo”) and they were really low, 18°C in Idle when it normally is around 30-40°, I stressed it a little bit by loading some videos and it wouldn’t go past 20°C. So I decided to stress a little bit my pc, by opening a game for ten minutes, and after a while the fans started spinning and it reached around 50 degrees; after that, the temps have been pretty normal, right now it’s 31°C in idle, so I think everything works correctly. I don’t really think the initial behaviour is anything, but I thought I might as well post it because you never know, maybe it’s something dangerous I’m not aware of so it would be better to report it, but I really don’t think so.

                The story behind this psu is that my family member had his gpu die on him, and so he changed build; he told me he never had any issue with the psu, even with the pc as a whole aside from the gpu, as he thinks the gpu dying was not the psu’s fault but just the gpu itself being faulty (it used to give some problems, as in infrequent blue screens, and eventually it died after some years while playing). I was a bit anxious about this but I thought that it would have been weird for a PSU to damage only a graphic card and nothing else - maybe this assumption of mine is wrong.

                My plan, if this swap-in keeps going well, would be to upgrade most of the computer at the end of the year or around the end of next year, hoping everything would last that long. If you have any other suggestion about what I can do to assure everything is well and normal, I’m all ears!

                By the way, I really appreciate keeping this thread open so that I could update on the swap-in.

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15209

                  #23
                  Apologies for the delay getting back to you Lustro, had gremlins of my own to deal with
                  Originally posted by Lustro
                  I thought that it would have been weird for a PSU to damage only a graphic card and nothing else - maybe this assumption of mine is wrong.
                  An add on GPU being the most power hungry component will always suffer first and the most when a weak PSU is being used.

                  The testing sounds like it`s gone ok and the XFX PSU only had minimal use but entirely up to you if you want to add the second monitor, if you do, expect the internal temps to rise and perhaps as much as by 31°C.

                  You are welcome

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                  • Lustro
                    PCHF Member
                    • Nov 2021
                    • 37

                    #24
                    No worries, no need to be apologizing! Please do prioritize your own gremlins, and I really appreciate you answering in spite of them.

                    About the GPU, I see, that makes sense, I guess it’s inevitable. During these days everything has been okay as well; I’ve been doing “ordinary” things, mainly using the browser and the microsoft office applications, and I’ve had no problems so far. Seems like the gpu temperature has stabilized at around 32 degrees in this state, and I think that’s on par with the setup with the old psu as well.

                    I think I will be gradually testing be more and more stressful situations. I mean: in time, I will start trying some games with one monitor, and if everything is okay I’ll try doing that with two monitors, to get back to the condition in which the random reboot occured last time (playing a game with two monitors and online with a discord call open).

                    But so far it looks stable, and I hope I won’t encounter any other issue for the time being. With that in mind, I think I can safely say that the thread can be closed, and if I’ll have any update in future (meaning, if I’ll keep having issues about it) I won’t forget to at least update the thread.

                    Many thanks, as always, for keeping up with all this! Wish you the best

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                    • phillpower2
                      PCHF Administrator
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 15209

                      #25
                      Thanks for both understanding and letting us know that you consider the issue resolved (y)

                      You are welcome and thank you

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