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  • Dr3w124
    PCHF Member
    • Mar 2021
    • 12

    #1

    W10 crashing repeatedly

    So I’ve been having this issue for the past few days and I’ve done everything that I can. My Pc has been completely fine until I got an update for a game that I play which crashed my pc I have deleted the game completely and after that didn’t work I hard reset my pc , updated all of my drivers, scanned my pc for any issues in my ram and storage nothing was reported, I’ve also scanned for viruses and nothing. My pc would run normally for a long time until I try to load any type game now I’m having the issue where my pc freezes while starting up . I’m starting to believe that it might be a PCU issue and that it’s dying because my other hardware I’ve scanned and nothing is wrong with it. I want to know if there is anything else I could possibly do before I buy another power supply and test my theory. If you need my Pc specs I shall provide.
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8976

    #2
    Hello

    Please download and run and then post.. Speccy - Free Download

    To post: CCleaner Support Community

    @PeterOz

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    • PeterOz
      PCHF Technical Response Team
      • Mar 2021
      • 4181

      #3
      Hi Dr3w124
      As well as speccy could you please go here and download speed fan and install Click On Me .
      Run speed fan then click on the Exotics tab > show the magic. post a screen capture.

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      • Dr3w124
        PCHF Member
        • Mar 2021
        • 12

        #4
        Thank you for getting back to me. here is the speccy results:

        And the speed fan screen capture is attached.

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        • PeterOz
          PCHF Technical Response Team
          • Mar 2021
          • 4181

          #5
          I am sorry I missed this bit - could you please give the make model and power of your power supply.
          From the speed fan you are running hot especially if this is just normal - No games running.
          Before a new PSU I would look at the option of re-pasting the cpu fan. i can under if you are reluctant to try this. It might seem daunting but is not that hard to do.
          Have a read of this and tell me what you think.
          Step 1) Buy a Thermal Paste. I use Arctic Silver Click On Me BUT after watching this best Thermal Click On Me you could try This Click On Me
          Step 2) Remove Power cord and open Computer and touch metal to Earth yourself or Buy this Click On Me
          Static is a big killer of computers.
          Step 3) Remove fan and heat sink Click On Me If not held on like this then should be screwed on or post back with pic.
          Step 4) Clean CPU ( DO NOT REMOVE) and bottom of heat sink using Methylated spirits or Isopropyl Alcohol (rubbing alcohol)
          Step 5) Apply Thermal Paste Click On Me to CPU Everyone has a different method.
          The aim is a nice covering Too little = Bad, Too much = Bad (Think Goldilocks and the three bears). Pic attached
          Step 6) Reattach heatsink/fan (after the fan and fins are clean) Click On Me for intel or Click On Me for AMD
          Step 7) Apply Power.
          Step 8) Cross fingers and turn on computer and Test. Then close computer backup.
          Step 9) report back here all is good and we will send your Tech certificate in the mail.

          All Jokes aside this is something that can be done at home.
          If no static wrist band ( I would recommend for a newbie) Always touch metal to earth yourself.
          Look in my Signature for my main 2 rules.
          Cheers
          PeterOz

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          • Dr3w124
            PCHF Member
            • Mar 2021
            • 12

            #6
            Yeah it seems manageable since I did build it, I’ll buy some thermal paste and I’ll get back to you when all is done. On another note if it’s a over heating issue it could be the location of the Pc because the room I reside isn’t very circulated and can get very hot so it could contribute to the high temps just a thought. I might attempt moving the setup to test it aswell. I wanna eliminate as many variables that I can to narrow down the issue.

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            • PeterOz
              PCHF Technical Response Team
              • Mar 2021
              • 4181

              #7
              Sounds like good steps.
              Can I say 100% it is thermal Paste - No
              Try moving the computer first as it is your system that is running the hottest.
              Are all your fans clean and are the fins on the cpu fan clean.
              Try that first

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              • PeterOz
                PCHF Technical Response Team
                • Mar 2021
                • 4181

                #8
                Originally posted by Dr3w124
                Pc because the room I reside isn’t very circulated and can get very hot
                Yeah I was just looking through things again - I would move computer first

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                • phillpower2
                  PCHF Administrator
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 15209

                  #9
                  Any update Dr3w124

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                  • Dr3w124
                    PCHF Member
                    • Mar 2021
                    • 12

                    #10
                    Yes actually, I havent moved the pc however I got the temps down by cooling down the room but not by much about 7 degrees cooler.
                    It was running at 57-58 degrees C but now its running 50-51 as you can see in the attached image.
                    unfortunately my pc still freezes at times but its not random its whenever I boot up a game or a specific app. for example a game like destiny will run flawlessly for hours but others that are less reliant on my gpu seem to freeze on boot.

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                    • PeterOz
                      PCHF Technical Response Team
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 4181

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dr3w124
                      my pc still freezes at times but its not random its whenever I boot up a game or a specific app. for example a game like destiny will run flawlessly for hours but others that are less reliant on my gpu seem to freeze on boot.
                      Instead of a game like destiny that will run for hours. Can you give us a name of a game that does freeze.
                      Looking at speccy you have Tiworker.exe running. This is part of windows updates that can use a high percentage of CPU.
                      So if it is running when you are trying to run a game that is CPU heavy then you could be having a clash.
                      You could open task manager>Performance tab and watch the cpu as you start a game that you know causes problems.
                      Could you also kill Discord to test when running a game.
                      How would you feel about turning Off Nortons and turning on windows defender (so you are still protected)
                      This is purely to test. Nortons can be hard to turn off. You can use the suspend method then check Task manger to make sure all of it is stopped
                      Originally posted by Dr3w124
                      I reside isn’t very circulated and can get very hot so it could contribute to the high temps just a thought. I might attempt moving the setup to test it aswell
                      Yes I would try this first - do not worry about the cpu that will be the last step but looking back on things I think it is ojk as is.
                      Originally posted by PeterOz
                      I am sorry I missed this bit - could you please give the make model and power of your power supply.
                      Could we have this info please

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                      • Dr3w124
                        PCHF Member
                        • Mar 2021
                        • 12

                        #12
                        Originally posted by PeterOz
                        Instead of a game like destiny that will run for hours. Can you give us a name of a game that does freeze.
                        Looking at speccy you have Tiworker.exe running. This is part of windows updates that can use a high percentage of CPU.
                        So if it is running when you are trying to run a game that is CPU heavy then you could be having a clash.
                        You could open task manager>Performance tab and watch the cpu as you start a game that you know causes problems.
                        Could you also kill Discord to test when running a game.
                        How would you feel about turning Off Nortons and turning on windows defender (so you are still protected)
                        This is purely to test. Nortons can be hard to turn off. You can use the suspend method then check Task manger to make sure all of it is stopped

                        Yes I would try this first - do not worry about the cpu that will be the last step but looking back on things I think it is ojk as is.

                        Could we have this info please
                        Its random when to comes to games some will have no issues then that same game will freeze on boot or mid game destiny is the only one that is really consistent. as for discord ive tried doing so befoe and now when you asked it still happens if its closed, and im fine with turning it off however im truly thinking its my power supply now because today ive noticed two of my fans are spinning slower than usual.

                        Here is the Power supply info: CORSAIR CX Series CX650 650W ATX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply, CP-9020122-NA
                        (it froze while typing this andIi had nothing open but my browser my cpu usage was minimal)

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                        • PeterOz
                          PCHF Technical Response Team
                          • Mar 2021
                          • 4181

                          #13
                          I will ask the Power Expert @phillpower2 to have a look And give his advise.

                          Users Graphics card GeForce RTX 20 Series Graphics Cards and Laptops

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                          • phillpower2
                            PCHF Administrator
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 15209

                            #14
                            The grey label CX 650W was an improvement on the earlier green label model but it should still not be used on a more high end build like the OPs, Corsair recommend that the CX range only be used for entry level desktops that have either integrated graphics or the most basic of add on GPU suitable for office or school work.

                            If not planning to upgrade the GPU for a while the EVGA here with a ten year warranty is the quality that you need.

                            What will not be helping is the Power Plan.

                            Power Profile
                            Active power scheme: Razer Cortex Power Plan

                            All that junk like the above does is make weak components hotter and especially the insides of the PSU, changing the Power Plan to Balanced is a must.

                            I note that Speccy is flagging up various other issues, let us know if I can be of any assistance with those.

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                            • PeterOz
                              PCHF Technical Response Team
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 4181

                              #15
                              Originally posted by phillpower2
                              I note that Speccy is flagging up various other issues, let us know if I can be of any assistance with those.
                              Go for it

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