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  • roger_hawke
    PCHF Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 290

    #1

    Windows 10 Random Shutdowns/Restarts

    Hi,

    Recently my PC has been randomly shutting down and restarting.

    This morning, for example, I turned on my PC and it shut down and restarted before I could enter my password (about 15 seconds)

    Over the last couple of weeks it has shutdown/restarted 3 /4 times whilst I was using the PC.

    Is this common for Win 10?

    Would be grateful for any comments/assistance please
  • phillpower2
    PCHF Administrator
    • Sep 2016
    • 15209

    #2
    If the computer is a desktop can you post the brand and model name or number of the power supply (PSU).

    Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

    To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

    In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

    In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

    Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.

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    • roger_hawke
      PCHF Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 290

      #3
      phillpower2,

      Many thanks for response.

      PSU is as follows:
      OCZ STEALTHXSTREAM 600W OCZ600SXS

      See below link for snapshot:

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      • phillpower2
        PCHF Administrator
        • Sep 2016
        • 15209

        #4
        Only two things of note in Speccy, Windows is out of date and there is something going on with the RAM, neither are likely to cause the computer to re start, something that is though;
        Originally posted by roger hawke
        PSU is as follows:
        OCZ STEALTHXSTREAM 600W OCZ600SXS
        Great PSUs years back but this model was released in 2007 so the PSU could be anywhere up to thirteen years old and has been obsolete for so long that it is no longer listed on the PSU database, this makes the PSU a strong contender as the cause of your problems as what you describe is typical of a weak/failing PSU.

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        • roger_hawke
          PCHF Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 290

          #5
          phillpower2,
          Thanks again.

          Windows is out of date?? - I don’t understand this as I check for updates every day.

          What do you think is going on with RAM?

          Any suggestions for replacement PSU?

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          • phillpower2
            PCHF Administrator
            • Sep 2016
            • 15209

            #6
            Apologies Roger, my eyesight must have failed me for a minute, missed the latest update, doh ops:

            Regarding the RAM, you have 8GB made up of two 4GB sticks and Speccy is saying that 37% of the RAM was being used which is high for a computer that is not under any load, couple of things can cause this, the RAM only working in single channel and too much voltage going to the memory slots, Speccy does normally tell us if the RAM is working in single or duel channel but for some reason it is not.

            Can you recall which two of the four slots on the MB you have the RAM.

            RAM
            Memory slots
            Total memory slots: 4
            Used memory slots: 2
            Free memory slots: 2
            Memory
            Size: 8192 MBytes
            Physical Memory
            [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]Memory Usage: 37 %

            As for a replacement PSU, before replacing anything it is always recommended that if at all possible the system gets tested with an appropriate PSU first, being that we are under lock down this is obviously likely to be difficult so I`m not too sure how you wish to proceed, for the present set up a good quality 300W PSU would suffice but unfortunately they are hard to come by and normally as expensive as many 500W PSUs.[/COLOR]

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            • roger_hawke
              PCHF Member
              • Nov 2016
              • 290

              #7
              phillpower2,

              RAM is installed in the second and fourth slots from the left.
              I have attached a pic to show you.

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              • phillpower2
                PCHF Administrator
                • Sep 2016
                • 15209

                #8
                Correct slots so next thing to do is open Task Manager, click on the memory and processes tab, leave things for a minute or so to settle down then make a note of what is using all the RAM.

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                • roger_hawke
                  PCHF Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 290

                  #9
                  phillpower2,

                  Top of the memory column shows 31%.

                  Main user areas as follows:
                  APPS
                  Internet Explorer - 11.5mb
                  Task Manager - 19mb

                  Background Processes
                  Antimalware Service executable - 131.1mb
                  Malwarebytes Service - 11.9mb
                  Microsoft Windows Search Indexer - 17.7mb
                  Start - 18.7mb
                  XTU Service (32bit) - 18mb
                  Zam - 10.5mb

                  Windows Processes
                  Desktop Windows Manager - 47.2mb
                  Windows Explorer - 71.3mb

                  The vast majority of the rest are probably 6 - 7mb

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                  • phillpower2
                    PCHF Administrator
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 15209

                    #10
                    Restart the computer and access the BIOS to see if it says that your RAM is in dual channel.

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                    • roger_hawke
                      PCHF Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 290

                      #11
                      phillpower2,

                      Apologies - I don’t know where to look in BIOS to see whether RAM is in dual channel - guidance please!!
                      I have seen on line a piece of software called CPU-Z which will let me know whether RAM is in dual channel - do I need this?

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                      • roger_hawke
                        PCHF Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 290

                        #12
                        phillpower2,

                        By the way when I mentioned a couple of posts ago, "The vast majority of the rest are probably 6 - 7mb it should be 1 - 5mb (probably not important)

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                        • phillpower2
                          PCHF Administrator
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 15209

                          #13
                          Was going to suggest CPU_Z next if the info was not in the BIOS, can you post a couple of screenshots of the memory info from CPU-Z (free version).

                          No worries on the other memory usage, the big hitter as you can see is IE.

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                          • roger_hawke
                            PCHF Member
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 290

                            #14
                            Ad,

                            You mentioned that the big hitter is IE - please explain??

                            I have attached a screenshot of CPU - Z from the memory tab - indicating the dual channel.
                            Also attached is a copy of the complete report (not sure if you wanted this ?)

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                            • phillpower2
                              PCHF Administrator
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 15209

                              #15
                              From your reply #9;
                              Originally posted by roger hawke
                              Main user areas as follows:
                              APPS
                              Internet Explorer - 11.5mb
                              IE = Internet Explorer which you mentioned was using the most RAM so was the biggest hitter, sorry if it confused you but we often use that phrase rather than using resource hog.

                              RAM is all good then, thanks for the log but the dual channel pic was the main thing we needed.

                              Last thing that we can look at is a MTB log which should give us some info about the sudden shutting down, chances are we will see either error 41 or the sudden shut down was unexpected, we may even see both;

                              Download MiniToolBox and save the file to the Desktop.

                              Close the browser and run the tool, check the following options;

                              List last 10 Event Viewer Errors
                              List Installed Programs
                              List Devices (Only Problems)
                              List Users, Partitions and Memory size

                              Click on Go.

                              Post the resulting log in your next reply for us.

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