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  • mbhd
    PCHF Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 12

    #1

    New Hard Drive, No Windows. Help!

    Hey all,
    Iโ€™ve just been donated a PC. Itโ€™s a couple of years old but still definitely workable. The hard drive was shot so I purchased a new one one and fitted it.
    Now I have no clue about how to get windows 10 onto this new hard drive!

    Someone mentioned to me that the windows license key that came with it is tied to the motherboard? Iโ€™m not even sure what windows version it was running previously.
    Do I pay for a new copy of windows 10?
    Do I have to download a copy to put on a bootable USB? If so, does it have to be from Microsoft or any retailer?
    Can I get it for free as I have the license key, even if I donโ€™t know what windows version it was running?
    Whatโ€™s the difference between retail and OEM versions?

    Sorry for the multitude of questions but Iโ€™m just a bit lost. Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks!
  • veeg
    PCHF Director
    • Jul 2016
    • 8978

    #2
    Hello

    Please give us some of your pc specโ€™s. A retail copy is that you own it and usually doesnโ€™t depend on what pc you put it on,if you pc is compatible. OEM versions are linked to that one pc,however you can buy an OEM copy and use that on a pc but just on that one pc,if it is compatible. Do you happen to know what OS is on that pc/HDD now?
    Just so you know that MS has made a limit on some OEM pc moboโ€™s and all that can be used is win 10 if it came with it.

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    • mbhd
      PCHF Member
      • Jun 2017
      • 12

      #3
      Originally posted by vger
      Hello

      Please give us some of your pc specโ€™s. A retail copy is that you own it and usually doesnโ€™t depend on what pc you put it on,if you pc is compatible. OEM versions are linked to that one pc,however you can buy an OEM copy and use that on a pc but just on that one pc,if it is compatible. Do you happen to know what OS is on that pc/HDD now?
      Just so you know that MS has made a limit on some OEM pc moboโ€™s and all that can be used is win 10 if it came with it.
      Thanks for the reply!
      I really wish I could tell you more about it. It says Dell XPS 8100 - 4754 on the bottom. I can see it has a GTX 260 card in it. The HD I got for it was a WD Blue 1tb. Thereโ€™s a sticker on top with a windows license key but not the version of windows. Iโ€™m not really qualified to identify things like motherboard or power supply or memory. Does any of that help?

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      • veeg
        PCHF Director
        • Jul 2016
        • 8978

        #4
        Ok this pc could be compatible. I am still trying to find a way to get a free version of Win 10 for you. Also Dell supposedly has drivers for your pc if you use WIn 10. There seems to be an issue with the internal Lan hardware using win 10,but this find is not set in stone.

        Letโ€™s see if i can get you more helpโ€ฆ @DOUGIE

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        • mbhd
          PCHF Member
          • Jun 2017
          • 12

          #5
          Originally posted by vger
          Ok this pc could be compatible. I am still trying to find a way to get a free version of Win 10 for you. Also Dell supposedly has drivers for your pc if you use WIn 10. There seems to be an issue with the internal Lan hardware using win 10,but this find is not set in stone.

          Letโ€™s see if i can get you more helpโ€ฆ @DOUGIE
          Thanks so much for your help. I really appreciate it! If you need any more info, Iโ€™ll do my best to find it for you.

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          • veeg
            PCHF Director
            • Jul 2016
            • 8978

            #6
            My bad..i forgot Dougie was on the other side of the world..So i am trying to get more help here.

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            • system
              PCHF Owner
              • Jan 2015
              • 7634

              #7
              The computer was original installed Genuine Windowsยฎ 7 Professional 64-Bit, if you have product key for Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit you can activate Windows 10 Pro operating system.

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              • mbhd
                PCHF Member
                • Jun 2017
                • 12

                #8
                Originally posted by FreeBooter
                The computer was original installed Genuine Windowsยฎ 7 Professional 64-Bit, if you have product key for Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit you can activate Windows 10 Pro operating system.
                Oh great, you were able to verify that from the info I gave you? So would I install windows 10 using a bootable USB and use the license key on the sticker to activate it?

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                • mbhd
                  PCHF Member
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 12

                  #9
                  I spoke to the guy who gave it to me and he just made things more confusing. He said that Windows wasnโ€™t activated on it (had expired) but he was still using it anyway. It had a message telling him to pay to activate it, but never bothered and it worked fine. Sounds a bit off, no? Said I should just install Windows 10 from a USB and use it like he did.

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                  • system
                    PCHF Owner
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 7634

                    #10
                    If the key you used was from a sticker attached to the computer in question then it is an OEM:COA key and CAN NOT be activated online against MS servers. Attempting to do so will generate an invalid key error. OEM:COA keys require OFFLINE activation requiring phoning MSโ€™s automated toll free number in order to complete the activation process. It will give you a code based upon your OEM key and the hash that Windows calculates based upon your computerโ€™s hardware. You complete the activation process by entering that code into the Windows activation dialogues.

                    To use OEM:COA key offline activation type slui.exe 4 + enter into the Search dialogue box of the Start menu. If UAC prompts indicate Yes and follow the ensuing dialogue windows. Note have a pen and paper handy in order to write down the confirmation code as you will need to enter it in the appropriate dialogue window if activation was SUCCESSFUL. If the process was NOT successful, stay on the line and you will be transferred to a human operator to which you can plead your case If you get disconnected, simply phone back but this time say nothing at the automated process where it asks you to enter your key, instead wait the two repeated requests in silence and you will be transferred to a live agent.

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                    • system
                      PCHF Owner
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 7634

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mbhd
                      I spoke to the guy who gave it to me and he just made things more confusing. He said that Windows wasnโ€™t activated on it (had expired) but he was still using it anyway. It had a message telling him to pay to activate it, but never bothered and it worked fine. Sounds a bit off, no? Said I should just install Windows 10 from a USB and use it like he did.
                      Looks like he never activated Windows 7.

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                      • mbhd
                        PCHF Member
                        • Jun 2017
                        • 12

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FreeBooter
                        If the key you used was from a sticker attached to the computer in question then it is an OEM:COA key and CAN NOT be activated online against MS servers. Attempting to do so will generate an invalid key error. OEM:COA keys require OFFLINE activation requiring phoning MSโ€™s automated toll free number in order to complete the activation process. It will give you a code based upon your OEM key and the hash that Windows calculates based upon your computerโ€™s hardware. You complete the activation process by entering that code into the Windows activation dialogues.

                        To use OEM:COA key offline activation type slui.exe 4 + enter into the Search dialogue box of the Start menu. If UAC prompts indicate Yes and follow the ensuing dialogue windows. Note have a pen and paper handy in order to write down the confirmation code as you will need to enter it in the appropriate dialogue window if activation was SUCCESSFUL. If the process was NOT successful, stay on the line and you will be transferred to a human operator to which you can plead your case If you get disconnected, simply phone back but this time say nothing at the automated process where it asks you to enter your key, instead wait the two repeated requests in silence and you will be transferred to a live agent.
                        So do I do this with windows 7 or 10? And is it the same process for both? Load on to a USB and boot it from there? And then get the code and call the number?

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                        • Rustys
                          PCHF Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7862

                          #13
                          Here is where you can download a legit copy of windows 10 for the system. Do they have the recovery disk for that system? If so then all you should have to is reinstall them and activate. The COA does not expire unless it has been used illegally then Microsoft will just lock it where is can not be used to activate.

                          Download Windows 10 Disc Image (ISO File)
                          . Just follow the on screen instruction. Try using the COA that is on the system and see if it accepts it when it ask for it. You may want to write it down so you have it for easy access.

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                          • mbhd
                            PCHF Member
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 12

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rustys
                            Here is where you can download a legit copy of windows 10 for the system. Do they have the recovery disk for that system? If so then all you should have to is reinstall them and activate. The COA does not expire unless it has been used illegally then Microsoft will just lock it where is can not be used to activate.

                            Download Windows 10 Disc Image (ISO File)
                            . Just follow the on screen instruction. Try using the COA that is on the system and see if it accepts it when it ask for it. You may want to write it down so you have it for easy access.
                            I donโ€™t have the disc unfortunately, just the sticker with the license code for an unknown version of windows. I will install windows 10 using the usb drive and try that license code and see. If that doesnโ€™t work, where would I purchase a working license code? Are the OEM codes cheaper?

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                            • Rustys
                              PCHF Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7862

                              #15
                              Just call Microsoft and they will help you in getting it legal.

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