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  • PeterOz
    PCHF Technical Response Team
    • Mar 2021
    • 4191

    #31
    Try this
    Stick your current ubuntu usb into the usb port on the mac - you will also need another usb to copy files to.
    hold down the option key and power on
    you should get 2 drives showing.
    use tab button to pick the usb - should be labelled as efi with a usb logo
    press return key
    it will then start to load.
    It might stop - just wait a couple of mins and see if it loads

    Now it might be a problem to access the mac drive.
    Click on the Ubuntu home icon
    click on other locations
    can you access the drive. - If not what is the error - take a pic
    You will need another drive to copy your data to.
    DO NOT copy to the ubuntu drive.

    I booted off a ubuntu that I use on pc’s and it booted my mac

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    • PeterOz
      PCHF Technical Response Team
      • Mar 2021
      • 4191

      #32
      if your file system is APFS Linux will not read it.
      This could be the easy way
      Under some circumstances, you may need to re-install macOS. You can re-install macOS while keeping your files and user settings intact.

      Scroll down the page to
      [HEADING=1]Re-install macOS[/HEADING]

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      • mx_599
        PCHF Member
        • Nov 2024
        • 130

        #33
        Originally posted by PeterOz
        Try this
        Stick your current ubuntu usb into the usb port on the mac - you will also need another usb to copy files to.
        hold down the option key and power on
        you should get 2 drives showing.
        use tab button to pick the usb - should be labelled as efi with a usb logo
        press return key
        it will then start to load.
        It might stop - just wait a couple of mins and see if it loads

        Now it might be a problem to access the mac drive.
        Click on the Ubuntu home icon
        click on other locations
        can you access the drive. - If not what is the error - take a pic
        You will need another drive to copy your data to.
        DO NOT copy to the ubuntu drive.

        I booted off a ubuntu that I use on pc’s and it booted my mac
        Okay, I was going to say my recent Ubuntu thing was going from a windows but it looks like you said at the end you were able to do this
        I will investigate this

        I have a bunch of 16g usb drives by the way. but anyway let me try this Ubuntu

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        • mx_599
          PCHF Member
          • Nov 2024
          • 130

          #34
          Originally posted by PeterOz
          if your file system is APFS Linux will not read it.
          This could be the easy way
          Under some circumstances, you may need to re-install macOS. You can re-install macOS while keeping your files and user settings intact.

          Scroll down the page to
          [HEADING=1]Re-install macOS[/HEADING]
          APFS? you mean on my bootable Ubuntu? You mean before I do the above stuff I need to see if there are APFS files first?

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          • PeterOz
            PCHF Technical Response Team
            • Mar 2021
            • 4191

            #35
            Apfs is a mac file system that came in with High Sierra.
            Because your mac is 2011 the file system should be the older os extended/HFS
            We will not know for sure until you boot with linux and then try to access the mac drive.

            I would try the linux method first.

            Yes I used the ubuntu that I use on windows computers.

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            • mx_599
              PCHF Member
              • Nov 2024
              • 130

              #36
              Originally posted by PeterOz
              Apfs is a mac file system that came in with High Sierra.
              Because your mac is 2011 the file system should be the older os extended/HFS
              We will not know for sure until you boot with linux and then try to access the mac drive.

              I would try the linux method first.

              Yes I used the ubuntu that I use on windows computers.
              Okay. 2 quick questions:
              1. Honestly, not sure how much file space I need to get my files. I think we’ll under 100gig but who knows, maybe 500. Is this a one shot deal where I need to be prepared to get all my old files? Or can I basically do the Ubuntu boot and see how much data and then if needs be I can shut things down and get the size I need and come back another day?
              2. A few months ago I made 2 Ubuntu jump drives and not sure why. I must have been unsure if I did it correct. I have no idea which one I used to load this new computer. They look identical EXCEPT one opens up this β€œ2nd drive” that comes and goes with the USB drive. See photo. Which of these 2 Ubuntu USB should I use? The normal one or the one that opens up the 2nd imaginary drive?

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              • PeterOz
                PCHF Technical Response Team
                • Mar 2021
                • 4191

                #37
                Originally posted by mx_599
                Or can I basically do the Ubuntu boot and see how much data and then if needs be I can shut things down and get the size I need and come back another day?
                Yes
                Or you can network to another computer and copy files across.
                Ubuntu should not be a 1 shot method.

                If both sticks boot, then either one should be fine.

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                • mx_599
                  PCHF Member
                  • Nov 2024
                  • 130

                  #38
                  Originally posted by PeterOz
                  Yes
                  Or you can network to another computer and copy files across.
                  Ubuntu should not be a 1 shot method.

                  If both sticks boot, then either one should be fine.
                  Sorry to drag this out! lol

                  Hey, I am thinking of getting a 500gig usb jump drive on amazon before I do this because I think that is plenty storage for all my devices and on this Mac you are helping me with. I am not the type that needs terabytes I do not think

                  Anyway, is it okay to use 500gig jump drive as a back up device or is this frowned upon? should I be getting a solid state external drive? or older style external hard drive?

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                  • PeterOz
                    PCHF Technical Response Team
                    • Mar 2021
                    • 4191

                    #39
                    My personal opinion would be an SSD external drive.
                    If the price is within your budget I would be looking at a 1TB drive.
                    I would also be looking for a brand name.
                    E.G Seagate, WD, Crucial etc.

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                    • mx_599
                      PCHF Member
                      • Nov 2024
                      • 130

                      #40
                      Originally posted by PeterOz
                      My personal opinion would be an SSD external drive.
                      If the price is within your budget I would be looking at a 1TB drive.
                      I would also be looking for a brand name.
                      E.G Seagate, WD, Crucial etc.
                      Okay let me look at these online. Maybe some are at amazon
                      standby…

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                      • PeterOz
                        PCHF Technical Response Team
                        • Mar 2021
                        • 4191

                        #41
                        Could you read the mac drive with Linux?

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                        • mx_599
                          PCHF Member
                          • Nov 2024
                          • 130

                          #42
                          Originally posted by PeterOz
                          Could you read the mac drive with Linux?
                          I didn’t try yet, I am afraid.

                          I sort of want to get that SSD first so I can get files all at once when I try.

                          Don’t quit the forum yet! :LOL:

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                          • Bruce
                            PCHF Moderator
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 10702

                            #43
                            @mx_599 - any progress?

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                            • Bruce
                              PCHF Moderator
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 10702

                              #44
                              @mx_599 - threads are closed if there has been no activity for a few days.

                              Have you gotten that SSD yet?

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                              • PeterOz
                                PCHF Technical Response Team
                                • Mar 2021
                                • 4191

                                #45
                                Looks like he has given up which is a shame.

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