Which custom prebuilt PC is best overall and why?

Bruce · May 20, 2021

what will be your immediate and future needs of the PC?

the Omen needs more storage, 512GB of SSD alone will not cut it if you want to play games.
and that PSU in woefully under-rated to run that GPU.

Cyberpower just needs more storage, SSD isn't bad but more would be good, the 1TB HDD should at least be 2TB for not much extra - $AUD20 difference.

BigHeff85 · May 20, 2021

Bruce said:
what will be your immediate and future needs of the PC?

the Omen needs more storage, 512GB of SSD alone will not cut it if you want to play games.
and that PSU in woefully under-rated to run that GPU.

Cyberpower just needs more storage, SSD isn't bad but more would be good, the 1TB HDD should at least be 2TB for not much extra - $AUD20 difference.

So you would go with the CyberpowetPC?
Also, what is the point of have both an SSD and HDD? Do I store games on HDD and system stuff on SSD?

Bruce · May 20, 2021

from that list, yeah, I'd go for the Cyberpower and up the storage.

traditionally, when SSD's were expensive, you'd put installed software onto the SSD for speed and put data files on to the HDD due to price and size.
those days are pretty much gone now, SSD's are dirt cheap and reliable. still, HDD offers better bang for buck.
I'd be putting whatever I wanted to be accessed as fast as possible on to the SSD and use the HDD for media storage: vids, pics, music, backups, docs, saved games etc - things you don;t care if it takes an extra couple of seconds to load.

BigHeff85 · May 20, 2021

Bruce said:
from that list, yeah, I'd go for the Cyberpower and up the storage.

traditionally, when SSD's were expensive, you'd put installed software onto the SSD for speed and put data files on to the HDD due to price and size.
those days are pretty much gone now, SSD's are dirt cheap and reliable. still, HDD offers better bang for buck.
I'd be putting whatever I wanted to be accessed as fast as possible on to the SSD and use the HDD for media storage: vids, pics, music, backups, docs, saved games etc - things you don;t care if it takes an extra couple of seconds to load.

I've posted this on another site and some are saying cyberpower is no good and that the cooling isn't good enough. What do you think? Should I up the cooling and storage or scrap it and go elsewhere? Look this is tough when you get differing opinions and advice. Got 1 person saying the cooling isn't good enough, another 1 saying I don't need it....

Bruce · May 20, 2021

opinions are like armpits - we all have them and we all think ours don't stink.
they are personal opinions, usually unconsciously biased but biased all the same, and should be treated as such.

for example, the Cyberpower has a ASUS motherboard, personally I don't like or use them but hey, I've seen plenty of people use them that do like them so I'll keep my opinion to myself on the assumption I just don't know enough.

as to the cooling, let's have a reality check here (to that person saying it's no good) - unless you are overclocking the system, the supplied stock fan and heat sink do the job just nicely, hell that's why they supply it! if it didn't all the forums would be all over it.

do 3rd party ones do the job better, yes!, but you usually are only talking what?, 5-10 degrees max.
and liquid cooling, again it has its place, but a high percentage of systems with them didn't need the overkill solution and went for it purely on aesthetics. (bloody RGB, it's like a zombie apocalypse sweeping the PC world!)

BigHeff85 · May 20, 2021

Bruce said:
opinions are like armpits - we all have them and we all think ours don't stink.
they are personal opinions, usually unconsciously biased but biased all the same, and should be treated as such.

for example, the Cyberpower has a ASUS motherboard, personally I don't like or use them but hey, I've seen plenty of people use them that do like them so I'll keep my opinion to myself on the assumption I just don't know enough.

as to the cooling, let's have a reality check here (to that person saying it's no good) - unless you are overclocking the system, the supplied stock fan and heat sink do the job just nicely, hell that's why they supply it! if it didn't all the forums would be all over it.

do 3rd party ones do the job better, yes!, but you usually are only talking what?, 5-10 degrees max.
and liquid cooling, again it has its place, but a high percentage of systems with them didn't need the overkill solution and went for it purely on aesthetics. (bloody RGB, it's like a zombie apocalypse sweeping the PC world!)

Thank you! Very helpful!!!

BigHeff85 · May 20, 2021

This is the build in thinking of going with. Lmk what you think please.

BASE_PRICE: [+1765]
• CABLE: None
• CAS: Phanteks Eclipse P400A High Air-Flow ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ USB 3.0, ARGB, Full-Size Tempered Glass [+10] (Black Color)
• CC: None
• COOLANT: None
• CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i5-11600KF 6/12 3.90GHz [Turbo 4.9GHz] 12MB Cache LGA1200 [w/o Integrated Graphic] [-216]
• CS_FAN: Default case fans
• ENGRAVING: None
• FAN: Asetek 570LC 120mm (Fatboy) Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate [+17] (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
• FREEBIE_CU: None
• FREEBIE_MB: None
• HDD: 1TB Intel® SSD 670p Series PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 3500/2500 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 220/330k [-18] (Single Drive)
• HDD2: None
• HEADSET: None
• INSTRUCTION: None
• IUSB: Built-in USB Ports (Based on motherboard and case selection)
• KEYBOARD: CyberPowerPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
• MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3200MHz Dual Channel Memory [+30] (Corsair Vengeance LPX [+30])
• MICROPHONE: None
• MONITOR: None
• MOPAD: None
• MOTHERBOARD: ASRock Z590 Steel Legend WiFi 6E ATX, ARGB, 2.5GbE LAN, 2 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 3x M.2 SATA/PCIe [+41]
• MOUSE: CyberPowerPC Standard 4000 DPI with Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse
• NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
• OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
• OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
• POWERSUPPLY: 650 Watts - Corsair RM Series RM650 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply [+60]
• PRO_WIRING: None
• RUSH: Extra 4 week lead times for selected video cards, Eligible for 5% Instant Rebate when enter “NORUSH” During Checkout.
• SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
• SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
• SPEAKERS: None
• USBHD: None
• VIDEO: [Extra 4 Weeks Lead Time] GeForce RTX™ 3060 12GB GDDR6 Video Card (Ampere) [VR Ready] (Single Card)
• WARRANTY: STANDARD WARRANTY: 1 Year Parts WARRANTY
• WNC: None
• WTV: None
• _PRICE: (+1719)

Bruce · May 21, 2021

can't fault it - high price but quality components.
the only thing I'd change is the PSU, 650w is only just going to get you by.
the GTX3060 are notorious for high wattage demands, and Nvidia recommend 600w, so I'd be looking at around 800watts for starts. That way you are still good down the track as you add more components and connect extra devices.
Corsair is a great supplier of PSU's (along with EVGA) and have one of the best warranties.

Bruce · May 21, 2021

Oh, and completely up to you, and budget permitting, but I'd get a HDD for a second drive.
great place to dump things you don't care may load a bit slower like your picture and music library, your saved games, etc, and if nothing else, your backups.
you could even share it out for the family to access over the network for their usage or even for watching things from your smart TV or Apple TV.
they are cheap and as large as your budget allows, but get at least 2TB.

and to extend the life of the SSD, a second drive then allows you to relocate things like the user and system temp folders, move the pagefile onto, and even permanately relocated your personal library folders (docs, pics, vids, music, downloads, desktop) if you wanted to.

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Which custom prebuilt PC is best overall and why?

So I've narrowed my search down to 2 custom prebuilt PCs. Please let me know which is best and why.

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