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Old pc which I use mainly for photo editing. Very slow processing. I am trying to figure out if there are components that I can upgrade or do I need a new build from the ground up? I believe the graphic board is integrated in the MB so probably cannot be replaced? Would a better CPU and an SSD instead of the old hard drive help?

AMD Phenom II X4 945 CPU paired with 12 GB of RAM.
ATI Radeon HD 4200 graphics
ASUS M4A785-M motherboard
 
Have you reinstalled windows fresh on this machine? If you are only using it for Photo editing perhaps a fresh install is in order to remove clutter

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I am tagging some help for you, these people deal with hardware issues but typically they like to see some logs from a machine prior to suggesting anything.

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One possible issue is the lack of Free space on the C: drive in order for windows to function correctly you should have around 30 percent free space on your drive that contains windows.



You can use Treesize to find files on your machine that you may wish to delete.


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But lets see what the others have to say about upgrading your components.
 
that's a fairly old rig you have (12 years old?), so first decision you need to make is, do I keep it running along with minimal investment (parts, time, and money) or redirect that potential investment and go a new rig.

if sticking with the current unit, I would definitely be getting a SSD and reloading Windows afresh onto the new drive. you'll only be spending under $100 on a new SSD and a few hours with reload Windows and all your software.

so excellent bang for buck.
if in the off chance you then still think a new rig is the way forward, the old one will be in an great position for resale.

but if you are of the opinion you want a new CPU for your photo needs, that'll force you to at least replace the motherboard, and memory, maybe the power supply, and GPU.
 
Part of my reluctance to go with a new pc is whether I can install Win 7 on it or not, or do I want to spend the money to upgrade to Win 11? Win 7 works fine for me, unless it is a part of the pc's problem due to its age. I tend to stick with what I am comfortable with, for instance, I still use Photoshop CS4 and it works well for my purposes..

I show a little over 6 GB free on the C drive. If I remember correctly, F is a partition and has 85 GB free. What would be a good amount of free space to have on C? I recently transferred all of my photo and video files off to a external drive and freed up a lot of space. By the way, Treesize won't work on Win 7 apparently.
 
About 50 gigs to be on the safe side.

We can see if we can speed the machine up and squeeze out some more performance if you want?
 
We will check the machine with these tools as it is easier to clean up old crap and rubbish.


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From the speccy log, windows was installed in 2011 there are bound to be remnants of old software running that should not be. These tools will allow me to target and remove them. Giving the machine better performance in the end..
 
I appreciate your help and your time... I do run CCleaner on the pc but it seems what you are asking me to run is somewhat more in-depth. Thanks.
 

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Win 7 works fine for me, unless it is a part of the pc's problem due to its age.
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Should not be an issue.
I agree with a new ssd. However do you have a Win 7 install dvd and the serial number?
You have to get more room on C drive as recommended. Bare minimum 50GB. I would try for more.
Change power plan from high to balanced.
High is for laptops with a dedicated gpu.
 
PeterOz said:
Should not be an issue.
I agree with a new ssd. However do you have a Win 7 install dvd and the serial number?
You have to get more room on C drive as recommended. Bare minimum 50GB. I would try for more.
Change power plan from high to balanced.
High is for laptops with a dedicated gpu.
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Thanks PeterOz. Still have the dvds for my software and serial numbers. Changed the power to balanced. Downloaded WizTree and am currently moving @ 36 gigs to my F drive. Will look for more to move or delete. Would I keep the old drive installed if I decide to add an SSD?
 
Even though I am leaning towards keeping the current pc another idea, which I probably know the answer to already, is this: Considering a new or refurbished rig I searched for "best" pc for photography and a Lenovo M900 came up numerous times as a best "budget" buy... I see numerous refurbished ones on Amazon and other sites with prices under $150.... opinions?
 
johnnywyoming said:
on Amazon and other sites with prices under $150.... opinions?
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You would have to supply a link.
johnnywyoming said:
Would I keep the old drive installed if I decide to add an SSD
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Step 1. Add new ssd - Quality brand.
Step 2. Disconnect ALL current drives.
Step 3. Load win7 and all programs
Step 4. Connect other drives.
Then if you like you can reconnect the old Win 7 and have it as a drive to access data you may has missed, or dual boot in case there is a program
you have not been able to load onto the new ssd.
If you do use a new ssd make sure you only have that drive only connected when you install windows.
 
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PeterOz said:
You would have to supply a link.

Step 1. Add new ssd - Quality brand.
Step 2. Disconnect ALL current drives.
Step 3. Load win7 and all programs
Step 4. Connect other drives.
Then if you like you can reconnect the old Win 7 and have it as a drive to access data you may has missed, or dual boot in case there is a program
you have not been able to load onto the new ssd.
If you do use a new ssd make sure you only have that drive only connected when you install windows.
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If I decide to upgrade I'm thinking of this CPU and SSD... just under $100. However, when I ran the Windows Experience Index the graphics card was rated at 4.1 and was the worst rating of the items checked. The graphics card is integrated so I don't believe it can be upgraded.

Will wait until Malnutrition responds to the info from my pc before making any decision.

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