Solved I5 3570k vs Ryzen 5 2600?

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Hi, I am currently using an I5 3570k on a ASRock Z77 Extreme6 motherboard, my CPU usage is at 80% to 100% on most games I play, and my PC is getting a bit slow and not very responsive and I think my I5 is bottlenecking my GTX 1060. So i'm planing on getting a Ryzen 5 2600 with a X470 motherboard and I will be overclocking it with my current AIO cooler. Do you think the upgrade will increase my PC's performance enough to justify the upgrade, as It will cost me around £250? I usually just browse and game, but I may do 3D modelling in the future.

System specs:
PSU: EVGA 750W SuperNOVA NEX750B
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6
CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61
RAM: (DDR3), Corsair 4GB (X2), Kingston 2GB (X2)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
HDD's
WDC WD5000AZRX-00A8LB0 (500GB)
WDC WD15EADS-00S2B0 (1.5TB)
SSD:
(C drive) Kingston 120 GB SSD
 
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I would just suggest getting better RAM with a motherboard that supports it. That should work.
 
GameMR said:
I would just suggest getting better RAM with a motherboard that supports it. That should work.
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What do you mean by better ram, higher clock speeds, latency or more of it because I thought you only needed enough of it i.e. 8+GB and the specs don't really matter that much.
 
Hi JamesK49. I would suggest getting the following components:

Motherboard: MSI X470 GAMING PRO ATX Motherboard for AMD Socket AM4 Processors
RAM: G.SKILL F4-3200C14D-16GFX 16 GB (8 GB x 2) Flare X Series DDR4 3200 MHz PC4-25600 CL14 Dual Channel Memory Kit - Black
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-Core 19 MB Cache 65 W CPU with Wraith Stealth Cooler - Black

Those components will give a nice upgrade in performance. However if you have the funds available, I would look at upgrading that SSD and getting rid of those hard drives and getting a larger SSD to store more applications on it. I would look at getting this one, Samsung 500 GB 860 EVO Sata III 64L V NAND Solid State Drive.

Let me know if you have any questions.
 
Evan Omo said:
Hi JamesK49. I would suggest getting the following components:

Motherboard: MSI X470 GAMING PRO ATX Motherboard for AMD Socket AM4 Processors
RAM: G.SKILL F4-3200C14D-16GFX 16 GB (8 GB x 2) Flare X Series DDR4 3200 MHz PC4-25600 CL14 Dual Channel Memory Kit - Black
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-Core 19 MB Cache 65 W CPU with Wraith Stealth Cooler - Black

Those components will give a nice upgrade in performance. However if you have the funds available, I would look at upgrading that SSD and getting rid of those hard drives and getting a larger SSD to store more applications on it. I would look at getting this one, Samsung 500 GB 860 EVO Sata III 64L V NAND Solid State Drive.

Let me know if you have any questions.
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Hi Evan, thanks for the detailed and informative reply. The motherboard and CPU are really good choices, however i'm confused with what the benefits to having ram with higher speeds and faster latency is, compared to generic ram that's half the price, so if you could explain that, that would be great.
 
Going with Ryzen 5 2600 with a X470 motherboard will be a great choice it will definitely increase your PC performance, also get a DDR4 RAM of good speed atleast of 3000 MHz for a more better gaming experience
 
Evan Omo said:
Ryzen CPU's like faster speed RAM and in particular those G.Skill sticks are designed for Ryzen systems.

Take a look at this video, High-Speed DDR4: Ryzen's Silver Bullet.
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Evan Omo said:
Ryzen CPU's like faster speed RAM and in particular those G.Skill sticks are designed for Ryzen systems.

Take a look at this video, High-Speed DDR4: Ryzen's Silver Bullet.
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I see, but is it specifically the RAM speeds, the RAM CAS latency, or both together that increases the CPU's performance. For instance would these
( https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product...4266mhz ram&qid=1548800830&sr=1-10&pldnSite=1 ) RAM sticks with a speed of 4266 MHz improve the 2600's performance, more than the RAM with speeds of 3200 MHz, regardless of the timings or is it the combination of both the RAM speeds and the latency that Improves the performance more for ryzen i.e.

For 3200 MHz CAS-14 RAM [14/(0.5*3200)]*1000=8.750 ns
For 4266 MHz CAS-19 RAM [19/(0.5*4266)]*1000=8.907 ns

So the 3200 Mhz RAM would actually be faster, but would that make it have a higher performance increase on a ryzen CPU due to the infinity fabric, or would the 4266 MHz ram have a greater performance impact due to the speed alone?
 
Evan Omo said:
Many Ryzen motherboards have trouble running on RAM higher than 3200 MHz and you start seeing diminishing returns with RAM higher than 3200 MHz and lower CAS latency does also help with performance so I would get the G.Skill 3200 MHz sticks.
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Thanks for the info, I'll probably go with the ram you suggested and the other components, but wait a while until ram prices come down a bit as they are extortionate right now. Thanks for the help.
 
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