In Progress Looking for upgrading as my old sytem (i5-6500) is bottlenecked.

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tarunbiswask

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I built my current PC in 2016 and is running well. My core use of this PC is mainly for gaming. As I love to play PUBG on 144hz monitor but my problem is my cpu i5-6500 which is bottlenecking and my graphics card gtx 1070 is utilized at 50 to 60 percent. So, I am thinking of upgrading of Processor and Motherboard. As I thought of i5-9600k and i7-9700k for upgrading with Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro (Wifi). Also want to know about compatibility of these with my existing pc build components.
Following are the details of My current rig:

Processor - i5-6500
Motherboard - MSI B150M Mortar
Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212x
RAM - G.Skill DDR4 2400Mhz 8gb x2 (Total 16GB)
Graphics Card - Asus GTX 1070 Dual
SSD - Samsung EVO 750 250gb
HDD - Western Digital Blue 1 TB 7200Rpm
SMPS - Seasonic S12G 80+ Gold 550W
Cabinet - Corsair Carbide Spec 03
Monitor - Benq Zowie XL2411 144hz 24inch

I don't want to SLI or Crossfire so I think current smps is ample for running for i5-9600k or i7-9700k. About cooler it may handle these processor at stock speed but I may overclock processor in future, so also suggest me any good cooler which will keep cool any of these processors and also fits in my current cabinet. Any other suggestion is also appreciated so feel free to discuss. Please post your valuable reply.
 

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how do you know it's the CPU bottlenecking?
have you got some cold hard facts to support that, because I'm thinking those specs aren't too old nor too bad.
of course you can throw more money at the issue and if you have no budget then yes, replacve the mobo with a good gaming one instead of the entry-level B150M board and get an i7 or i9 CPU and crank up the vid card to max.

I was going to suggest a SSD as a quick fix but I see you already have one.

So my money saving tip would be to bite the bullet and reload a fresh Windows installation onto that Samsung EVO.
The early EVO's had a fault where they would grind to a halt after a few months of use - I think Samsung either recalled a batch or released a firmware upgrade, so check there isn't one for your drive.

but if you were happy with the speed when you first built the rig, a wipe a clean install would get you back to that level again.
 
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I have checked with msi afterburner. The cpu is at 100% load. While playing cpu intensive games performance is not up to the mark.
 

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and is it only that current game being played that is using 100% of the CPU resources?
There are probably a bunch of background services that may be able to be tweaked to improve that -
AV and Windows updates, schedule tasks, maintenance, scans, telemetry.
 

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I built my current PC in 2016 and is running well. My core use of this PC is mainly for gaming. As I love to play PUBG on 144hz monitor but my problem is my cpu i5-6500 which is bottlenecking and my graphics card gtx 1070 is utilized at 50 to 60 percent. So, I am thinking of upgrading of Processor and Motherboard. As I thought of i5-9600k and i7-9700k for upgrading with Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro (Wifi). Also want to know about compatibility of these with my existing pc build components.
Following are the details of My current rig:

Processor - i5-6500
Motherboard - MSI B150M Mortar
Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212x
RAM - G.Skill DDR4 2400Mhz 8gb x2 (Total 16GB)
Graphics Card - Asus GTX 1070 Dual
SSD - Samsung EVO 750 250gb
HDD - Western Digital Blue 1 TB 7200Rpm
SMPS - Seasonic S12G 80+ Gold 550W
Cabinet - Corsair Carbide Spec 03
Monitor - Benq Zowie XL2411 144hz 24inch

I don't want to SLI or Crossfire so I think current smps is ample for running for i5-9600k or i7-9700k. About cooler it may handle these processor at stock speed but I may overclock processor in future, so also suggest me any good cooler which will keep cool any of these processors and also fits in my current cabinet. Any other suggestion is also appreciated so feel free to discuss. Please post your valuable reply.
Hey there mate. Decent built you got there. i7-9700k would be an awesome option if you have the budget to spend. Though my concerns are about your monitor. Don't get me wrong 144hz is awesome for games, but for new games that have high requirements. PUBG is not one of those games. It's online and competitive. I believe 60hz monitor will suit you better. My personal opinion. I have a 60hz playing WoW and other online games, and it's running smoothly. I've stumbled on this article which explains the difference between 144hz and 60hz in details. I hope you found this useful
 

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how do you know it's the CPU bottlenecking?
have you got some cold hard facts to support that, because I'm thinking those specs are too old nor too bad.
of course you can throw more money at the issue and if you have no budget then yes, replacve the mobo with a good gaming one instead of the entry-level B150M board and get an i7 or i9 CPU and crank up the vid card to max.

I was going to suggest a SSD as a quick fix but I see you already have one.

So my money saving tip would be to bite the bullet and reload a fresh Windows installation onto that Samsung EVO.
The early EVO's had a fault where they would grind to a halt after a few months of use - I think Samsung either recalled a batch or released a firmware upgrade, so check there isn't one for your drive.

but if you were happy with the speed when you first built the rig, a wipe a clean install would get you back to that level again.
Thanks for your reply.
As you told I have downloaded the samsung magician and checked my SSD, the firmware is showding up to date, So there is no problem with ssd. However, there were many background processes ongoing which I have disabled through msconfig.exe and disabled startup apps. Now, it is performing little bit better after tweaking. I have checked again PUBG and Apex Legends where CPU load is at 98 to 100% and GPU load is 80 to 90%. As it seems this games demanding for more cpu power.
 

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Hey there mate. Decent built you got there. i7-9700k would be an awesome option if you have the budget to spend. Though my concerns are about your monitor. Don't get me wrong 144hz is awesome for games, but for new games that have high requirements. PUBG is not one of those games. It's online and competitive. I believe 60hz monitor will suit you better. My personal opinion. I have a 60hz playing WoW and other online games, and it's running smoothly. I've stumbled on this article which explains the difference between 144hz and 60hz in details. I hope you found this useful
Thanks for your reply. I can change settings from 144hz to 60hz. But, now I am used to 144hz as it seems more smoother.
 

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I think Gus is saying 'replace the motherboard and the CPU'. :thumbsup:
or put it another way - current gen software works best on current gen hardware.

personally - I'd still like to see how a fresh install of Windows plays out.
beauty would be it'll cost you nothing but time and may give you the results you are after.
if it doesn't then yes, let's look at what hardware can be upgraded.

and as a side note, just because Samsung Magician reports it's own drive as good doesn't actually mean it is.
try a 3rd party app and look at SMART values but as I say, if it was mine, I'd be doing a nuke it from space.
 

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I think Gus is saying 'replace the motherboard and the CPU'. :thumbsup:
Yep

I'd still like to see how a fresh install of Windows plays out.
Yes definitely, but unless he has a retail copy of Windows 10 he will have to purchase a copy anyway if and when he fits a new mobo/cpu, and it would be a disaster to try and run the old OS with new hardware as well.
 

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How are the MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon and Gigabyte Z390 Aorus pro Motherboard for i7-9700K?
I come to know that gigabyte board has software issue.
 

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All I will say is I've used Gigabyte boards for about 17 years now and have had one DOA in the time.
I remember in the early days taking back some other part for RMA and was able to see into the back of the shop and noticed literally rack upon rack upon rack of ASUS motherboards that had been RMA'd and made a note to myself to never get one of those brands.

But everything changes, makes/models/manufactures also change, so what may be recommended today by one person will be different tomorrow for someone else.

If you want to chase the differences between MSI and Gigabyte, I'd suggest Googling review forums and the like. ;)
 
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