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Going into low fps range in games on high end system is unplayable.

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#21
Hello ADtk, for some reason I was not notified of my tag.

To better help you, let's get some more information about the state of your system.

Please download and run speccy.

Once you have ran speccy, follow the instructions to upload a snapshot found here.

To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:​

  1. In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.
  2. In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.
  3. Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot dialog box. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.
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If the unit is a desktop unit, please look in the computer and tell your exact model of PSU, this should include the manufacturer, model, and efficiency rating.
 
#23
What a monster of a machine, congrats, that's awesome. :)


1. Try cleaning/organizing your drives.

Run Disk Cleanup (check all the boxes) this will delete things such as your recycling bin, so make sure you don't have any files you want to keep.

Run Defragment and Optimize Drives, run this on your drives.


2. Disable any overclocking or changes to power/performance settings

Turn off XMP/any overclocking you may have done (if any)

Settings > System > Power and sleep > Additional power settings
Make sure your power plan is set to balanced, anything else could tamper with the wrong settings and cause issues.


3. Check for Operating System Corruption

Right click on the Windows logo in the bottom left and select Windows Powershell (Admin)
Run these three commands separately:

sfc /scannow

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

These will take a while to run, do not close out of Powershell while they are running, if one fails then move onto the next and then loop back around.

Note: It doesn't hurt to make a system backup before you make all these changes, save any important files of folders. While these changes shouldn't cause any issues, better to be safe than sorry.


4. Unplug unnecessary devices.
If you have a gamepad, extra monitor, external hard drive/flash drive, or anything that is not essential to using the computer plugged in, unplug it. You should be left with your monitor, mouse and keyboard.


Once you have completed all of these tasks, restart it (using the restart option in the power menu) and re-test.


Furthermore, what games are you experiencing the issues in specifically? Is one worse than the others?
 
#24
Pyro said:
What a monster of a machine, congrats, that's awesome. :)


1. Try cleaning/organizing your drives.

Run Disk Cleanup (check all the boxes) this will delete things such as your recycling bin, so make sure you don't have any files you want to keep.

Run Defragment and Optimize Drives, run this on your drives.


2. Disable any overclocking or changes to power/performance settings

Turn off XMP/any overclocking you may have done (if any)

Settings > System > Power and sleep > Additional power settings
Make sure your power plan is set to balanced, anything else could tamper with the wrong settings and cause issues.


3. Check for Operating System Corruption

Right click on the Windows logo in the bottom left and select Windows Powershell (Admin)
Run these three commands separately:

sfc /scannow

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

These will take a while to run, do not close out of Powershell while they are running, if one fails then move onto the next and then loop back around.

Note: It doesn't hurt to make a system backup before you make all these changes, save any important files of folders. While these changes shouldn't cause any issues, better to be safe than sorry.


4. Unplug unnecessary devices.
If you have a gamepad, extra monitor, external hard drive/flash drive, or anything that is not essential to using the computer plugged in, unplug it. You should be left with your monitor, mouse and keyboard.


Once you have completed all of these tasks, restart it (using the restart option in the power menu) and re-test.


Furthermore, what games are you experiencing the issues in specifically? Is one worse than the others?
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Hey thank you so much pyro. I will do the above as soon as I can and get back to you. All the games are same. Whatever game I have played behaves the same when it gets around the 100 fps range and below. I have yet to experience that buttery smooth 60fps or 120 fps one might experience on ps5/series x. 60 fps in any game on my pc is just a no go. It feels like 20 fps. So I keep wondering even after getting one of the best hardware I can’t enjoy games. I even went all out on the monitor which is quite expensive but no luck. :)
 
#25
Pyro said:
What a monster of a machine, congrats, that's awesome. :)


1. Try cleaning/organizing your drives.

Run Disk Cleanup (check all the boxes) this will delete things such as your recycling bin, so make sure you don't have any files you want to keep.

Run Defragment and Optimize Drives, run this on your drives.


2. Disable any overclocking or changes to power/performance settings

Turn off XMP/any overclocking you may have done (if any)

Settings > System > Power and sleep > Additional power settings
Make sure your power plan is set to balanced, anything else could tamper with the wrong settings and cause issues.


3. Check for Operating System Corruption

Right click on the Windows logo in the bottom left and select Windows Powershell (Admin)
Run these three commands separately:

sfc /scannow

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

These will take a while to run, do not close out of Powershell while they are running, if one fails then move onto the next and then loop back around.

Note: It doesn't hurt to make a system backup before you make all these changes, save any important files of folders. While these changes shouldn't cause any issues, better to be safe than sorry.


4. Unplug unnecessary devices.
If you have a gamepad, extra monitor, external hard drive/flash drive, or anything that is not essential to using the computer plugged in, unplug it. You should be left with your monitor, mouse and keyboard.


Once you have completed all of these tasks, restart it (using the restart option in the power menu) and re-test.


Furthermore, what games are you experiencing the issues in specifically? Is one worse than the others?
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Ran all three tests on windows powershell.

And these are the results:

sfc /scannow

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Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth


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Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth


1657214843800.png


Nothing changed really. Warzone for example runs at 180-200 fps on high settings. If I cap it to 100 fps it feels like 30 fps. Otherwise there is no issue in games on high fps as such.
 
#26
ADtk said:
No, running a single gpu.
Drivers are up to date
Background apps are just your regular ones on windows 11. Not sure if there's one or few in particular that might be causing this issue. but the apps I have installed and run in the background are icue, logitech g hub and msi afterburner/riva tuner
I don't use any third party antivirus software.
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Thanks. Hopefully there’s an answer.
 
#29
Pyro said:
Have you run DDU to ensure that your display drivers were not automatically installed by Windows as well?
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so did not use ddu for it. when windows was installed it downloaded the drivers and then I upgraded from the nvidia website to the latest drivers
 
#30
I would run it and see if that helps, when Windows automatically installs their drivers it only seems to cause more issues in terms of GPUs.

Here is a guide provided by the creators of DDU.

Two crucial steps,
1. Download your display drivers before hand from Nvidia's website
2. Disconnect your machine from the internet, this will prevent Windows from automatically installing drivers again and forcing you to repeat the process.

Finally, a restore point/backup of any important files wouldn't hurt before trying DDU. :)
 
#31
Pyro said:
I would run it and see if that helps, when Windows automatically installs their drivers it only seems to cause more issues in terms of GPUs.

Here is a guide provided by the creators of DDU.

Two crucial steps,
1. Download your display drivers before hand from Nvidia's website
2. Disconnect your machine from the internet, this will prevent Windows from automatically installing drivers again and forcing you to repeat the process.

Finally, a restore point/backup of any important files wouldn't hurt before trying DDU. :)
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Thank you Pyro. I’ll try it and let you know
 
#32
Pyro said:
I would run it and see if that helps, when Windows automatically installs their drivers it only seems to cause more issues in terms of GPUs.

Here is a guide provided by the creators of DDU.

Two crucial steps,
1. Download your display drivers before hand from Nvidia's website
2. Disconnect your machine from the internet, this will prevent Windows from automatically installing drivers again and forcing you to repeat the process.

Finally, a restore point/backup of any important files wouldn't hurt before trying DDU. :)
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Hey Pyro, thank you so much for this tip. I used DDU and installed a fresh copy of Nvidia driver. it did help quite a bit but still not perfect. It sometimes might also be the game. In warzone it feels better, in Dota not so much. But I can see there was a noticeable difference after I used DDU. Would you also think there is some software or something in the background that might be causing this? while playing PUBG I noticed random hitching for instance the game runs at 225 fps constantly on ultra settings but when there is a hitch it drops to 214 and there's a millisecond stutter/hitch and then it's fine. These does happen quite a few times while I'm playing. I don't run any browsers or any other apps in the background while I'm playing.

Another thing that I noticed and not sure if this might be causing some issue is that the 'other devices' drivers are always missing no matter what I do.

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Someone told me that these are no issue because windows has these. I also feel that sometimes even on high fps the game would feel really smooth and sometimes the same game at the same fps would not feel as crystal clear and it feels like there's something in the background causing it. And because playing on high fps you don't notice an interruption so much if there's one but when the games are running on low fps then it is exaggerated and easily noticeable. But one thing is for sure that I have played a lot of 60fps games on pc and on consoles and while panning the camera and playing they are perfectly smooth. But mine just looks like I'm playing on 30fps.
 
#33
I would enable V-Sync/G-Sync in any games you can, see if this makes a difference.

As far as those "other devices," those look like missing drivers to me, something Windows couldn't quite pick up on.

Do you have a storage drive that plugs in via PCI/PCIe?
 
#34
V sync also does not help. I have a g sync monitor and I have tried all the recommended settings by blur busters. Doesn’t help that much.

For the storage devices, I don’t think I do. I only have two storages and they both are m.2 nvme.
 
#35
Another things I noticed. After I installed used DDU to clean and install fresh drivers. The first time I went in game (warzone) and capped my fps to 100. It was really good. No complains. It felt smooth. But today, I launched the game again and capped it to 100 to see if it works but same problem, it felt like 40 fps. sluggish"!
 
#37
The only thing I have for testing
Turn power performance to balanced and get rid of msi after burner - just for testing.
Missing drivers - Let's try SMB
right click > properties>details tab>dropdown to Hardware id's post a pick
 
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