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Solved BSOD every 30-40 minutes no specific applications open causing it.

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Eughurt

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Hello, since this morning I've been having issues with my computer randomly blue screening. I've done research, updated some drivers, and listened to some online advice to get the most info possible. At this point it feels like I've exhausted every avenue for someone who isn't really great with computers and doesn't really understand the information I've been given. I would really appreciate some help and a big thank you to everyone who responds to this thread!!!

Here's some information:
Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 10.0.21349.1004 AMD64
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP]
Kernel Bitmap Dump File: Kernel address space is available, User address space may not be available.

Symbol search path is: srv*
Executable search path is:
Windows 10 Kernel Version 19041 MP (16 procs) Free x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS Personal
Edition build lab: 19041.1.amd64fre.vb_release.191206-1406
Machine Name:
Kernel base = 0xfffff807`2181c000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff807`22446230
Debug session time: Fri Jul 2 16:48:44.386 2021 (UTC - 4:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:10:48.206
Loading Kernel Symbols
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Loading User Symbols

Loading unloaded module list
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For analysis of this file, run !analyze -v
nt!KeBugCheckEx:
fffff807`21c12c20 48894c2408 mov qword ptr [rsp+8],rcx ss:0018:ffffdc88`cef36490=000000000000007e
15: kd> !analyze -v
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* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
*******************************************************************************

SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED (7e)
This is a very common BugCheck. Usually the exception address pinpoints
the driver/function that caused the problem. Always note this address
as well as the link date of the driver/image that contains this address.
Arguments:
Arg1: ffffffff80000003, The exception code that was not handled
Arg2: fffff80721c1ab08, The address that the exception occurred at
Arg3: ffffdc88cef37488, Exception Record Address
Arg4: ffffdc88cef36cc0, Context Record Address

Debugging Details:
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KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

Key : Analysis.CPU.mSec
Value: 2374

Key : Analysis.DebugAnalysisManager
Value: Create

Key : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec
Value: 6121

Key : Analysis.Init.CPU.mSec
Value: 655

Key : Analysis.Init.Elapsed.mSec
Value: 37789

Key : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb
Value: 93

Key : WER.OS.Branch
Value: vb_release

Key : WER.OS.Timestamp
Value: 2019-12-06T14:06:00Z

Key : WER.OS.Version
Value: 10.0.19041.1


BUGCHECK_CODE: 7e

BUGCHECK_P1: ffffffff80000003

BUGCHECK_P2: fffff80721c1ab08

BUGCHECK_P3: ffffdc88cef37488

BUGCHECK_P4: ffffdc88cef36cc0

EXCEPTION_RECORD: ffffdc88cef37488 -- (.exr 0xffffdc88cef37488)
ExceptionAddress: fffff80721c1ab08 (nt!DebugPrompt+0x0000000000000018)
ExceptionCode: 80000003 (Break instruction exception)
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 1
Parameter[0]: 0000000000000002

CONTEXT: ffffdc88cef36cc0 -- (.cxr 0xffffdc88cef36cc0)
rax=0000000000000002 rbx=000000000000005a rcx=fffff80721782d18
rdx=ffffdc88cef3001f rsi=fffff8072178afc0 rdi=000000000000002f
rip=fffff80721c1ab07 rsp=ffffdc88cef376c8 rbp=ffffdc88cef37820
r8=ffffdc88cef37750 r9=0000000000000002 r10=0000000000000000
r11=0000000000000010 r12=0000000000000408 r13=000000000000012c
r14=000000000000012c r15=ffffdc88cf9d4710
iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=0010 ss=0018 ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00040246
nt!DebugPrompt+0x17:
fffff807`21c1ab07 cc int 3
Resetting default scope

PROCESS_NAME: System

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0x80000003 - {EXCEPTION} Breakpoint A breakpoint has been reached.

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR: 80000003

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000002

EXCEPTION_STR: 0x80000003

STACK_TEXT:
ffffdc88`cef376c8 fffff807`21d9c3c4 : 00000000`0000005a fffff807`2178afc0 00000000`0000002f fffff807`2177a8a2 : nt!DebugPrompt+0x17
ffffdc88`cef376d0 fffff807`217bc9ac : 00000000`0000005a fffff807`2178afc0 fffff807`21782d14 00000000`00000007 : nt!DbgPrompt+0x44
ffffdc88`cef37720 fffff807`217bc36f : 00000000`0000002d ffffdf8c`7fc80b90 ffffdf8c`7fcbaff0 00000000`00000000 : FLTMGR!FltpvPrintErrors+0x188
ffffdc88`cef379a0 fffff807`21b5d225 : ffffdf8c`20498240 ffffdf8c`20498240 ffffdf8c`16cae8c0 ffffdc88`cf9d4720 : FLTMGR!FltpvDoLostObjectCheck+0x1ef
ffffdc88`cef37a70 fffff807`21b113b5 : ffffdf8c`20498240 00000000`00000080 ffffdf8c`16d02080 000fa4ef`bd9bbfff : nt!ExpWorkerThread+0x105
ffffdc88`cef37b10 fffff807`21c1a278 : ffffc180`4248b180 ffffdf8c`20498240 fffff807`21b11360 00000000`00000000 : nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x55
ffffdc88`cef37b60 00000000`00000000 : ffffdc88`cef38000 ffffdc88`cef31000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiStartSystemThread+0x28


SYMBOL_NAME: nt!DebugPrompt+18

MODULE_NAME: nt

IMAGE_NAME: ntkrnlmp.exe

STACK_COMMAND: .cxr 0xffffdc88cef36cc0 ; kb

BUCKET_ID_FUNC_OFFSET: 18

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: AV_VRF_nt!DebugPrompt

OS_VERSION: 10.0.19041.1

BUILDLAB_STR: vb_release

OSPLATFORM_TYPE: x64

OSNAME: Windows 10

FAILURE_ID_HASH: {f47fc276-52c8-da5f-1a32-8baabfc97af2}

Followup: MachineOwner
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15: kd> .exr 0xffffdc88cef37488
ExceptionAddress: fffff80721c1ab08 (nt!DebugPrompt+0x0000000000000018)
ExceptionCode: 80000003 (Break instruction exception)
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 1
Parameter[0]: 0000000000000002
15: kd> .cxr 0xffffdc88cef36cc0
rax=0000000000000002 rbx=000000000000005a rcx=fffff80721782d18
rdx=ffffdc88cef3001f rsi=fffff8072178afc0 rdi=000000000000002f
rip=fffff80721c1ab07 rsp=ffffdc88cef376c8 rbp=ffffdc88cef37820
r8=ffffdc88cef37750 r9=0000000000000002 r10=0000000000000000
r11=0000000000000010 r12=0000000000000408 r13=000000000000012c
r14=000000000000012c r15=ffffdc88cf9d4710
iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=0010 ss=0018 ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00040246
nt!DebugPrompt+0x17:
fffff807`21c1ab07 cc int 3
15: kd> lmvm nt
Browse full module list
start end module name
fffff807`2181c000 fffff807`22862000 nt (pdb symbols) C:\ProgramData\Dbg\sym\ntkrnlmp.pdb\FC57F1C841C2C3F793D57AC134DC0EFA1\ntkrnlmp.pdb
Loaded symbol image file: ntkrnlmp.exe
Mapped memory image file: C:\ProgramData\Dbg\sym\ntoskrnl.exe\05C0E3E01046000\ntoskrnl.exe
Image path: ntkrnlmp.exe
Image name: ntkrnlmp.exe
Browse all global symbols functions data
Image was built with /Brepro flag.
Timestamp: 05C0E3E0 (This is a reproducible build file hash, not a timestamp)
CheckSum: 00A5C86C
ImageSize: 01046000
Translations: 0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
Information from resource tables:
 
Hello! Thank you very much for replying, it says the uploader files is too large for the server to process for the sysnativefilecollecionapp.

 
The below as a starting point;

Windows Defender
Windows Defender: Enabled
Firewall
Firewall: Enabled

Display Name: McAfee Firewall
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Antivirus: Enabled

Virus Signature Database: Up to date
McAfee VirusScan
Antivirus: Disabled
Virus Signature Database: Up to date
Malwarebytes
Antivirus: Enabled

Virus Signature Database: Up to date

Having more than one AV or Firewall installed on your computer is bad, it will slow down the computer, cause internet connection problems and leave you with no AV protection at all if they cancel each other out as they fight for resources.

Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 come with an improved Windows Defender, it offers the same real-time anti-virus/anti-malware protection as Microsoft Security Essentials. Windows Defender also shares the same malware signature definitions as Microsoft Security Essentials, and Forefront Endpoint Protection. Technically, Microsoft Security Essentials has not been renamed Windows Defender, or combined with it in Windows 8, 8.1 and 10.

If any AV product that you have is a paid for version you should always make sure that you have a copy of the product key kept somewhere safe just in case you ever wish to reinstall it.

Malwarebytes removal info here

McAfee product removal tool (MCPR) info here

Once any other AV has been correctly uninstalled, check to see if Windows Defender has auto enabled and allow it to update and carry out a full scan of your computer.
 
The below as a starting point;

Windows Defender
Windows Defender: Enabled
Firewall
Firewall: Enabled

Display Name: McAfee Firewall
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Antivirus: Enabled

Virus Signature Database: Up to date
McAfee VirusScan
Antivirus: Disabled
Virus Signature Database: Up to date
Malwarebytes
Antivirus: Enabled

Virus Signature Database: Up to date

Having more than one AV or Firewall installed on your computer is bad, it will slow down the computer, cause internet connection problems and leave you with no AV protection at all if they cancel each other out as they fight for resources.

Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 come with an improved Windows Defender, it offers the same real-time anti-virus/anti-malware protection as Microsoft Security Essentials. Windows Defender also shares the same malware signature definitions as Microsoft Security Essentials, and Forefront Endpoint Protection. Technically, Microsoft Security Essentials has not been renamed Windows Defender, or combined with it in Windows 8, 8.1 and 10.

If any AV product that you have is a paid for version you should always make sure that you have a copy of the product key kept somewhere safe just in case you ever wish to reinstall it.

Malwarebytes removal info here

McAfee product removal tool (MCPR) info here

Once any other AV has been correctly uninstalled, check to see if Windows Defender has auto enabled and allow it to update and carry out a full scan of your computer.
I have uninstalled both and full scanned it came up with nothing. Just to make sure things didn't resolve itself I left my computer running and it is still BSODing.
 
1. Copy any dmp files from C:\Windows\Minidump onto the desktop.
2. Select all of them, right-click on one, and click on Send To> New Compressed (zipped) Folder.
3. Upload the zip folder using the Attach button, bottom left of the dialogue input box

Can I ask that you do not quote every reply as we have to read the full post to make sure nothing gets missed,, thanks.
 
Sorry but can we have the dmps the way that they were requested, your method is wanting me to download a third party extractor which I am not prepared to do, only dmps that are between 1 and 3 days are any use and using my means of getting the dmps to us can more than handle the amount of dmps you have.
 
Each crash was caused by the same thing Bugcheck 0x18 REFERENCE_BY_POINTER which amongst other things was a known problem with McAfee, see thread here

Your latest crash dmp is a couple of days old so we need to see if the same crash happens again, while we wait, can you post a new Speccy url for us, no rush here as I`m going offline now.
 
The first two crashes were the same as all of the previous but the latest was caused by either plug n play drivers or an actual PnP device failing, first thing we need to do is check to see if we can see any orphaned McAfee or MBAM files that may have been left behind, once done we will look at the PnP issue.

When you post the Autoruns log can you also let us know if the first two of the latest crashes were before or after McAfee and MBAM had been uninstalled and had the the computer been restarted since their removal, both points are important for us to know.

Post an Autoruns log for us, see here

1: Extract the Autoruns Zip file contents to a folder.

2: Double-click the "Autoruns.exe".

3: Click on the "Hide Signed Microsoft and Windows Entries” option.

4: Go to File then to Export As or Save in some versions.

5: Save AutoRuns.txt file to known location like your Desktop > when you click on File > Save you will then get the option to Save as type, click the drop down tab, change it to Text and then click the Save button.

6: Attach to your next reply.



Tutorial here
 
Yes, I believe they were uninstalled when those crashes happened at the very least I'm sure one of them were. Another crash happened as I was trying to do all this.
 

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Same Bugcheck 0x18 REFERENCE_BY_POINTER crash as the majority of your other crashes.

There are still traces of McAfee on the computer, use Autoruns to find and delete the following entry, see To Disable or Delete? info here for "how to"

"mfencbdc01" "McAfee Inc.: " "" "File not found: \Device\mfencbdc01.sys" "" ""

I recommend that you also uninstall EasyAntiCheat as it is renowned for causing problems, plenty of examples here
 
I removed the remaining McAfee file and just to play safe removed a malwarebytes extension and just restarted. It looks like easyanticheat is necessary to run certain games so I'll keep it for now as it doesn't seem like loading multiplayer games is an issue.
 
It doesn't seem like the other crashes are happening anymore which is fantastic as they were a lot more frequent I may be able to use this computer to get things done now, thank you so much for that!
The other crashes have been going on for a bit longer and I think I've noticed have mostly or always happened when my computer went to sleep. I'd turn it back on and it would ask for recovery options.
 
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