In Progress Sudden Shutdowns and Immediate Reboots
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It still has Windows files on it and including a Recovery Partition either of which could be putting a spanner in the works.
Best suggestion I can make here is to to clean install Windows 11 and the system drivers to the Patriot Burst SSD and be done with it.
Best suggestion I can make here is to to clean install Windows 11 and the system drivers to the Patriot Burst SSD and be done with it.
Understood, you could try formatting the Patriot but I suspect that it will not help with the size limitation when you try and shrink the other partition.
What about trying a 200GB partition on the Platinum SSD.
What about trying a 200GB partition on the Platinum SSD.
I'd rather wipe my C drive saving only some important docs. I am now backing up those docs and data on the Patriot Burst to format them both and install Windows on a partition made on the current C drive. In this regard are there any best practices Windows initial configurations? I saw a lot of videos and articles covering this topic but I'm not able to determine which are legit.
Interestingly since I swapped my power plan from high performance to balanced I've never experienced any shutdown and reboot. could this be the root cause of my issue? Or is this power plan only highlighting other hardware/software/OC-settings issues?
Do you have some resources where I can learn more about this?
Honest answer is making sure that you install the MBs chipset, storage and video drivers as soon as Windows is installed everything else normally just falls into place, you will just partitioning your C: drive afterwards which is exactly what you should be doing.
Good news, Corsair make some great PSUs but they must be used correctly as in have the required output and efficiency to be able to support the intended hardware, High Performance looks to have been purring too much load on your unit.
Not of my own ( Unusually ) it comes from years seeing the setting cause problems, worth a read though is the article here
Good news, Corsair make some great PSUs but they must be used correctly as in have the required output and efficiency to be able to support the intended hardware, High Performance looks to have been purring too much load on your unit.
Not of my own ( Unusually ) it comes from years seeing the setting cause problems, worth a read though is the article here
Thanks.
Let's say the performance power plan was causing the undesired behaviour, was it problematic by itself or did it only spark another latent problem?
Still assuming this was the cause of the problem, looking at my errors dump do you still suggest performing a clean Windows installation?
Let's say the performance power plan was causing the undesired behaviour, was it problematic by itself or did it only spark another latent problem?
Still assuming this was the cause of the problem, looking at my errors dump do you still suggest performing a clean Windows installation?
It's not problematic in itself but what it does is allow the CPU to run at its max clock speed for longer periods. This in turn generates higher temps which in turn can cause the problems.
High Performance and the PSU being low on the required wattage are a recipe for disaster, a lesser quality brand PSU would have popped and took out other hardware with it.
Windows is loaded with errors and not installed on its own partition so yes it does need to be clean installed and correctly, along with the MBs system drivers.
At the end of the day it is your computer to do with as you see fit and we for our part have advised you as what needs to be done, should you disregard the advice though when you end up with a non booting or possibly a smoking PC the finger of blame cannot be pointed in our direction.
We have applied a temporary sticking plaster by reducing the load on the PSU etc by getting rid of the problematic High Performance setting, that is all.
Windows is loaded with errors and not installed on its own partition so yes it does need to be clean installed and correctly, along with the MBs system drivers.
At the end of the day it is your computer to do with as you see fit and we for our part have advised you as what needs to be done, should you disregard the advice though when you end up with a non booting or possibly a smoking PC the finger of blame cannot be pointed in our direction.
We have applied a temporary sticking plaster by reducing the load on the PSU etc by getting rid of the problematic High Performance setting, that is all.
I see the benefits of performing a clear Windows installation so I'll do that, thak you.
Should I consider going for an higher wattage PSU to solve the issue and to avoid future ones or can I blame only the power plan setting for my problems and continue trusting this PSU?
So do you think is a wattage problem? I remember checking on several wattage calculator sites and they were alla around 650W-700W, 850W seemed enough.
Should I consider going for an higher wattage PSU to solve the issue and to avoid future ones or can I blame only the power plan setting for my problems and continue trusting this PSU?
Not necessarily but possible. Your GPU alone, has a requirement of 700W. Then the CPU requires some power, the fans, the drives, lights, etc.
One's goal should be to exceed the recommended not the minimum by a couple of hundred watts (this is what I try to do).
What's most important is to make sure it's a quality PSU with at least a 10-year warranty. Quality PSU's deliver clean, consistent power, cheaper ones do not.
Just to clarify, this is after the clean install?
No it isn't. First the issue happened and then I performed the clen installation.
I made sure to delete all system related partition before the installation.
After the clean install, the issue didn't occur. However, I haven't yet had the chance to test my PC's stability in what currently seems to be the most problematic scenario: turning on the PC, signing in, and leaving it idle. I'll test this scenario today.
One thing I forgot to mention, which might be relevant, is that I had several (10-15) startup apps. When I ran a stress test with AIDA immediately after the PC booted, all those apps stopped launching. They resumed launching as soon as the stress test ended though.
Something to keep in mind, it is the GPU manufacturer that is expected to honour any warranty should the card fail because it was underpowered, not a PSU calculator or some faceless person on the internet that says that it is ok to ignore any minimum PSU requirements specified by the GPU manufacturer.
GPU manufacturer are not legally obliged to and nor will they replace a product or pay a refund for damage caused by the end user.
Which power supply do you need?
Can we have a new MTB log and a Speccy url
Download then run Speccy ( free ) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.
To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:
In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.
In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.
Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.
Can we have a new MTB log and a Speccy url
Download then run Speccy ( free ) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.
To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:
In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.
In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.
Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.
I'll do that tomorrow as soon as I can.
Regarding the graphics card and PSU history, I realized I forgot to mention something:
When the issue first appeared, I was using both a different PSU (a generic, unknown brand) and a different graphics card (an NVIDIA Quadro P1000). Later, I replaced the PSU, and after a few weeks, I upgraded to the current graphics card. While I’m not sure how relevant this is, I think it’s worth noting that the issue existed even before these two components were changed.
This makes me inclined to rule out the PSU and GPU as the root causes. However, I might be wrong—it’s possible the issue resulted from long-term damage.
Regarding the graphics card and PSU history, I realized I forgot to mention something:
When the issue first appeared, I was using both a different PSU (a generic, unknown brand) and a different graphics card (an NVIDIA Quadro P1000). Later, I replaced the PSU, and after a few weeks, I upgraded to the current graphics card. While I’m not sure how relevant this is, I think it’s worth noting that the issue existed even before these two components were changed.
This makes me inclined to rule out the PSU and GPU as the root causes. However, I might be wrong—it’s possible the issue resulted from long-term damage.
I see the Windows install date is January 9th. But I also see apps that don't come with Windows installed, Krita, Treesize, Steam, etc.
So did you clean install and choose to keep your personal files or did you do a complete clean install and re-install those apps?
If you re-installed the apps, I'd suggest you do not install anything unless instructed after a clean install until we are done troubleshooting.
If you clean installed choosing to keep your personal files, this is not "Really" a clean install.
This is a complete clean install: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsinsider/cleaninstall
So did you clean install and choose to keep your personal files or did you do a complete clean install and re-install those apps?
If you re-installed the apps, I'd suggest you do not install anything unless instructed after a clean install until we are done troubleshooting.
If you clean installed choosing to keep your personal files, this is not "Really" a clean install.
This is a complete clean install: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsinsider/cleaninstall
What I did after the clean install was re-installing the programs I used the most.
After sending you the requested logs I even copyied the old AppData content into the new one, probably a bad idea, isn't it?
Should I go through another windows clean install?
Is it a problem if I keep files that are stored in drives different than the OS one?
After sending you the requested logs I even copyied the old AppData content into the new one, probably a bad idea, isn't it?
Should I go through another windows clean install?
Is it a problem if I keep files that are stored in drives different than the OS one?