Why is this so slow?

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spamuel98

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My computer manages to reliably take the better part of an hour to fully boot up and get up to speed, which doesn't really make sense give the information I can find. I'm running a Ryzen 5 3600x on an MSI B450 motherboard with 32 gigs of 3 gigahertz memory, a 2 terabyte hybrid drive, and a 1 terabyte SSD. I managed to open task manager, but it says I'm only using 15% of the CPU and 20% of the memory, but 50% of the disk. Isn't a hybrid drive supposed to be faster than a standard HDD?
 

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Agree with you 100% something is clearly wrong there.

If the computer is a desktop can you post the brand and model name or number of the power supply (PSU).

Download then run Speccy (free) and post the resultant url for us, details here, this will provide us with information about your computer hardware + any software that you have installed that may explain the present issue/s.

To publish a Speccy profile to the Web:

In Speccy, click File, and then click Publish Snapshot.

In the Publish Snapshot dialog box, click Yes to enable Speccy to proceed.

Speccy publishes the profile and displays a second Publish Snapshot. You can open the URL in your default browser, copy it to the clipboard, or close the dialog box.
 

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I started with a prebuilt maybe two years ago, the only thing left from that is the data I copied from the original hard drive onto the hybrid drive. I had to repartition the drive later with minitool, but it has always taken a while to boot up. The better part of an hour isn't strictly accurate, the booting up itself takes maybe five minutes, but the computer runs extremely slow for close to another 50 minutes, slow to the point of not being able to open and refresh browser tabs or game libraries. During that time, it will frequently pop up messages like the unresponsive notices you get when a browser tab freezes, but for windows.
 

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We can see a few things going on in Speccy but the most pressing is the Windows installation.

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Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Computer type: Tablet
Installation Date: 6/4/2020 8:08:31 PM

Straightforward answer to the question asked by hackerballs if you will;

Was Windows a clean install on an out of the box new storage device, using a new motherboard and CPU on 6/4/2020.
 

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No, I believe that was when I moved all my files from the original hard drive over to the hybrid drive. The motherboard and CPU were used with the old drive, but I was able to go through the troubleshooting to get it to boot up from the new drive. I don't know where the tablet qualification came from either.
 

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So how did you get the data from the original drive to the new hybrid drive, the behaviour that you describe is commonly caused by a dirty Windows installation.
 

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From what I gather, you have not even formatted when you rebuilt? Picture a rug that is never moved. Look under it and see how much dirt STILL gets under it. Same thing with installs. Backup everything you might need onto another drive, do a scan on the files first. It would not hurt you to do a complete clean install. Download the latest Windows and place on a USB. Formatt the drive, all partitions. (not sure why you need partitions, HDD's are cheap) Should only take minimum time (1/2 hr) Load your MB disk, GPU driver's, and Windows update. Then see if this helped. If this does not help, then we know it is probably hardware related. Enjoy the process, relax
 

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From what I gather, you have not even formatted when you rebuilt? Picture a rug that is never moved. Look under it and see how much dirt STILL gets under it. Same thing with installs. Backup everything you might need onto another drive, do a scan on the files first. It would not hurt you to do a complete clean install. Download the latest Windows and place on a USB. Formatt the drive, all partitions. (not sure why you need partitions, HDD's are cheap) Should only take minimum time (1/2 hr) Load your MB disk, GPU driver's, and Windows update. Then see if this helped. If this does not help, then we know it is probably hardware related. Enjoy the process, relax
I can try that as soon as I track down a flash drive. I didn't format because I have over 2 TB of games and programs on the drives, and most of the programs are overnight installs. The partitions were only showing up because the old drive was smaller than the new one, and there were existing partitions for different things, but I had to use MiniTool to get the unallocated space to register as part of the main memory partition as opposed to hanging off the end as it's own thing.
 

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So how did you get the data from the original drive to the new hybrid drive, the behaviour that you describe is commonly caused by a dirty Windows installation.
I connected the new drive into the computer and cloned the original drive with Macrium Reflect, which I suppose might count as a dirty installation?
 

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Using Macrium was the correct approach but not gone about the correct way,

Windows should be on the faster SSD device and not the slow as molasses 5400rpm drive.

Its own SSD would have been better but to get the best performance from your set up Windows should be installed on its own 256Gb partition on the SSD, the benefits of this apart from faster boot times are Windows is easier to back up and update + it helps keep Windows safe from data corruption etc.
 

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Using Macrium was the correct approach but not gone about the correct way,

Windows should be on the faster SSD device and not the slow as molasses 5400rpm drive.

Its own SSD would have been better but to get the best performance from your set up Windows should be installed on its own 256Gb partition on the SSD, the benefits of this apart from faster boot times are Windows is easier to back up and update + it helps keep Windows safe from data corruption etc.
So could I just clean install Windows on the SSD and update the bios to boot from there instead of reformatting the entire 2 Terabyte drive? Or even just move the files over?
 

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Microsoft Storage Space Device (SSD)

Partition 0
Partition ID: Disk #2, Partition #0
Disk Letter: G:
File System: NTFS
Volume Serial Number: 56196357
Size: 928 GB
Used Space: 705 GB (75%)
Free Space: 223 GB (25%)

Back up anything on this device that you need.

Delete anything on this drive that you no longer need/use.

Check that everything you have backed up is safe, opens, displays correctly.

Post a new Speccy url once the above has been done so we see how much free storage space there is on the SSD and we will go from there.

NB: Protecting your personal data is paramount to us so please only post back once you have checked and triple checked that you have everything that you hold dear safe and secure elsewhere.
 

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I will do that as soon as I get a chance, I'm currently dealing with a lot IRL, so I will try to close this thread to avoid wasting anyone's time. I can always open another thread if it doesn't work, thank you all for the help!
Edit; now how do I actually close the thread...
 

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Thanks for letting us know that you need to put this on hold (y)

No need to start a new thread as you can send one of us a PM to reopen this thread should you still need help and likewise a PM to let us know that assistance was no longer required would be appreciated.

You are welcome btw :)
 
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