Solved PC Crash - Very High Power Usage

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TheMedoGuy

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Windows 11 Pro Build - 22000.282

Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor 3.60 GHz
Installed RAM 32.0 GB = 2 x 16gb
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
GPU AMD 5700 XT
Power Supply: 600w 80 plus gold rgb

In task Manager there is a problem where alot of games or apps have a very high power usage problem. The pc used to crash but after updating the bios, it has been stable under cinebench, Heaven Benchmark and 3dmark time spy. I had a problem where when rendering from premier which is gone now as well.

My question is the problems initially started when I tried to overclock the ram or put it on its profile 1 on xmp or when I tried to overclock the cpu using ASUS smart software. Do I need to upgrade to 1000w Titaniam 80 to fix these very high task manager games/software and overclock problems?
 

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TheMedoGuy

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Crystal info too
 

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TheMedoGuy

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What is the brand and model name or number of the RAM.



What is the brand and model name or number of the PSU.

If the PSU is not made by Corsair, EVGA or Seasonic I wouldn`t touch it.
Module Manufacturer:G.Skill
Module Part Number:F4-3600C19-16GSXWB
Module Series:Sniper X Urban Camo
DRAM Manufacturer:Hynix

Power Supply:

Armaggeddon (Voltron Gold Series 600W ) RGB Computer Power Supply​

 

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Please see my reply above.

You will not get an instant response from a service that you are paying for so expect a delay from a free service that is on the opposite side of the world to which you reside.

Both specs above are a major problem with one being worse than the other, the RAM will not fry your PC whereas the PSU given time will.
 

TheMedoGuy

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You will not get an instant response from a service that you are paying for so expect a delay from a free service that is on the opposite side of the world to which you reside.

Both specs above are a major problem with one being worse than the other, the RAM will not fry your PC whereas the PSU given time will.
Sorry I had waited a day and a half and thought maybe it got bugged since it said at top of thread awaiting op response. I did read your signature and am thankful for your free service.

Can I get more details on how the psu well fry my pc, is it not enough power? also would it be good to upgrade to

Antec Signature 1000W 80+ Titanium Rating Fully Modular Server Grade ATX Power Supply or what would be your suggestion, thank you.​

 

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The PSU comes from a range that are of such bad quality and performance they are found on Tier E • Potentially dangerous in multiple scenarios

Allowing for any future upgrades and the price between a 600W and a 750W PSU from a proven brand, Corsair RM Series RM750 with a ten year warranty from here

I strongly suggest that you do not use the PC until you have swapped in the appropriate PSU, once you have done that we can sort out the problem with the RAM.
 

TheMedoGuy

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The PSU comes from a range that are of such bad quality and performance they are found on Tier E • Potentially dangerous in multiple scenarios

Allowing for any future upgrades and the price between a 600W and a 750W PSU from a proven brand, Corsair RM Series RM750 with a ten year warranty from here

I strongly suggest that you do not use the PC until you have swapped in the appropriate PSU, once you have done that we can sort out the problem with the RAM.
Thanks for the advise, I have not replaced the PSU in the pc, a little hiccup where I accidently removed power connector but its all connected and done now.

Now moving onto the Ram?
Also I have the deepcool mesh 55 case, do you know how to turn off the front fans led's permanently without having to press and hold the button every time?
What connector or cable would i need to disconnect?
 

phillpower2

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Now moving onto the Ram?

Your computer to do with as you see fit but when there is a junk PSU present I always insist on having the last word, don`t play Russian Roulette with your rather expensive hardware, couldn`t find any available to buy but in Aus when available prices for an AMD 5700 XT are given as $1645 Australian, your call if you want to risk frying it.

Regarding the RAM, 3600MHz is past what your CPU can handle which as is stated by AMD here is up to 3200MHz.

Disable XMP, manually set the RAM to 3200MHz, save the new settings then exit the BIOS.

Look in the case user manual for dealing with the case fans or alternatively if you have a decent motherboard it will have an RGB utility for controlling any RGB fans that are connected to RGB fan headers on the MB, this only if the MB has the required spec.
 

TheMedoGuy

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Your computer to do with as you see fit but when there is a junk PSU present I always insist on having the last word, don`t play Russian Roulette with your rather expensive hardware, couldn`t find any available to buy but in Aus when available prices for an AMD 5700 XT are given as $1645 Australian, your call if you want to risk frying it.

Regarding the RAM, 3600MHz is past what your CPU can handle which as is stated by AMD here is up to 3200MHz.

Disable XMP, manually set the RAM to 3200MHz, save the new settings then exit the BIOS.

Look in the case user manual for dealing with the case fans or alternatively if you have a decent motherboard it will have an RGB utility for controlling any RGB fans that are connected to RGB fan headers on the MB, this only if the MB has the required spec.
Thank you for the information, it seems i have miss typed my last comment, what I meant to say was that I HAVE REPLACED the old psu with a new one, the Antec Signature 1000W 80+ Titanium Rating Fully Modular Server Grade ATX Power Supply

My system is Running fine with 32gb ram on 3600 and some forums suggest that overclocking ram speed above cpu is fine if motherboard can handle it, is there a significant problem if i leave it as is if everything is working fine even under stress?
 

phillpower2

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No worries, you having an appropriate PSU is all that matters.

My system is Running fine with 32gb ram on 3600 and some forums suggest that overclocking ram speed above cpu is fine

Back to your computer to do with as you see fit but ask yourself this, should I follow the guidance that is backed up by firm proof from AMD regarding what speed of RAM their CPU is compatible with or should I listen to others that have nothing to substantiate their claims, cannot substantiate what long term knowledge they may or may not have and last but not least who have nothing to lose if you brick your all your hardware.

A MB is only compatible with any RAM that the CPU in the board can handle, look at the ASUS example here says that the board is compatible with up to 5000MHz DDR4 RAM but when you go to the memory support tab here ASUS do not list anything faster than 3200MHz
 
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TheMedoGuy

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No worries, you having an appropriate PSU is all that matters.



Back to your computer to do with as you see fit but ask yourself this, should I follow the guidance that is backed up by firm proof from AMD regarding what speed of RAM their CPU is compatible with or should I listen to others that have nothing to substantiate their claims, cannot substantiate what long term knowledge they may or may not have and last but not least who have nothing to lose if you brick your all your hardware.

A MB is only compatible with any RAM that the CPU in the board can handle, look at the ASUS example here says that the board is compatible with up to 5000MHz DDR4 RAM but when you go to the memory support tab here ASUS do not list anything faster than 3200MHz
Yeah your definitely right, thank you for the constant great advise, I have ordered 2 x Crucial Ballistix Gaming Memory, 2x8GB (16GB Kit) DDR4 3200MT/s CL16 Unbuffered DIMM 288pin Black, (PC4-19200), DDR4, BL2K8G32C16U4B to run 4 total of 32gb since they are single rank, or do you recommend instead to get 2 x 16gb of the same but are single rank?
 

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Disable XMP, manually set the RAM to 3200MHz, save the new settings then exit the BIOS.

Honest answer is stick with what you have and just manually OC it, nothing to gain by purchasing all new RAM when there is zero wrong with the present 32GB that you mention in your OP, the new PSU has cost you enough already.

You are welcome btw :)
 

TheMedoGuy

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Honest answer is stick with what you have and just manually OC it, nothing to gain by purchasing all new RAM when there is zero wrong with the present 32GB that you mention in your OP, the new PSU has cost you enough already.

You are welcome btw :)
Thanks again for help, I can deem this now solved, everything has been changed and is working perfectly fine now ^_^
 
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