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skragglenuts

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CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]
CARE2: CPU Thermal Compound - Our Cooler Master MASTERGEL High Performance Thermal Compound can improve cooling performance as well as prolong the life of your CPU. [+10]
CAS: CyberPowerPC NR640 High Air Flow Mid-Tower Gaming Case with Tempered Glass + 4x 120mm ARGB Fans [+2] (Black Color)
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i5-10600KF 6/12 4.10GHz [Turbo 4.8GHz] 12MB Cache LGA1200 [w/o Integrated Graphic] (Comet Lake-S) [+0]
FAN: CyberPowerPC MasterLiquid Lite 120mm ARGB CPU Liquid Cooler with Dual Chamber Pump & Copper Cold Plate
HDD: 1TB WD Blue SN550 Series PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 2400/1950 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 410/405k [-13] (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3600MHz Memory [-50] (Team T-Force Delta RGB)
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z590 PRO WiFi ATX, ARGB, WiFi 6, 2.5GbE LAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 3x M.2 SATA/PCIe [-31]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition). Free Upgrade to Windows 11 *(see below) [+0]
POWERSUPPLY: 750 Watts - CoolerMaster MWE GOLD 750 - V2 80 PLUS GOLD Ultra Quiet Full Modular Power Supply [+22]
PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
VIDEO: GeForce RTX™ 3060 12GB GDDR6 Video Card (Ampere) [VR Ready] [+458] (Single Card)

$1,606 after tax. custom build

OR

Operating System ::Windows 11 Home
Case ::iBUYPOWER Slate HAKO MR Tempered Glass ARGB
Processor ::Intel® Core™ i7-11700KF Processor (8X 3.60GHz/16MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling ::iBUYPOWER 240mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooling System
Memory ::16GB [8GB x 2] DDR4-3600MHz RGB
Video Card ::GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 8GB GDDR6 (VR-Ready)
Storage ::1TB Samsung 980 M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
Motherboard ::ASRock Z590-C/AC
Power Supply ::600 Watt - 80 PLUS Gold Certified
Internal Wireless Network ::On-Board Wireless Network

$1,817 after tax. pre-built.

what do you think? which is better? which will last longer? it'll be used for primarily gaming. minor amounts of adobe stuff/editing
 

phillpower2

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Wouldn`t purchase either of them;

VIDEO: GeForce RTX™ 3060 12GB GDDR6 Video Card (Ampere) [VR Ready] [+458] (Single Card)

The only thing that I would have on the first list.

Video Card ::GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 8GB GDDR6 (VR-Ready)
Storage ::1TB Samsung 980 M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD

The only two components that I would have on the second build.

Both CPUs have no integrated video.

The 3600MHz RAM is too fast for both CPUs so is a waste.

Cooler Master PSUs are on the avoid list.

Power Supply ::600 Watt - 80 PLUS Gold Certified

Could be any old piece of junk, you want to know the brand and exact model name or number of any PSU and at the prices quoted above you want a Corsair, EVGA or Seasonic PSU that has a ten year warranty.
 

skragglenuts

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i have a budget unfortunately, so some brands arent an option. the 3600mhz ram was a free upgrade from 3200, only reason i have it. ill take your advice into consideration and make some adjustments to the first. second is a prebuilt :( thanks for the help
 

skragglenuts

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Asetek 670LS 240mm Gen 6 Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate + 2x Phanteks SK120 PWM Radiator Fans
750 Watts - Corsair RMx Series RM750x 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Fully Modular Ultra Quiet Power Supply

these good alternatives for cooler and PSU?

the first site has 3200mhz as the lowest freq ram available to custom builds. same price as this 3600. shrug
 

phillpower2

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Can`t help with the cooler as I have not heard of it before.

You do not need a liquid cooler.

3600MHz RAM would not work with either of the two CPUs above, i5-10600KF you would have to manually overclock from 2133MHz to the max that the CPU can handle which the specs here say is 2666MHz, the i7-11700KF, specs here you would have to manually overclock from 2133MHz to the max that the CPU can handle which is 3200MHz, if you were to enable XMP on either system the system will not boot because the BIOS will not recognise the 3600MHz RAM.
 

phillpower2

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You do not build a PC to accommodate RAM, you consider the intended use and what core CPU and GPU will be required, you then find the appropriate speed and amount of RAM and after deciding on how many storage devices and the case you want you then choose an appropriate PSU.

I prefer an Intel build as most of their CPUs have integrated graphics whereas AMD CPUs do not, my advice, pay a bit more for an Intel HD CPU.