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Solved Looking for budget decent/good GPUs that can fit in a micro-ATX

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anonath

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Look for a gpu that matches your system spec's would be my advice.
Well... I'm not sure at best, currently throughout the thread had looked on case size, the Speccy sheet, comparing, and so on. So far the only thing that might bottleneck the GPUs really hard will be the CPU (i3 2100... Had to do with that) and according to many benchmarks of the combination I'll experience a -10% to -50% performance off target (depends card to card. I personally don't mind... Ish since the resulting bottlenecked result seems to still be very well be usable) from what the GPUs can actually do on peak performance load (with the proper drivers even), but will be less apparent in lighter loads.

The mentioned choices (GTX 780, GTX 1660) as well as lower options I've been looking into before (GTX 750, GTX 750Ti, GTX 1060) and the AMDs (RX 570 and RX 480) all fit theoretically with the footnote of some performance loss from CPU bottleneck universally, with 750 being the only exception as it's instead the one bottlenecking the CPU instead, according to benchmark websites.
 

anonath

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What case do you have and how many case fans are in it, did you ever get a proper power supply?
The case is an Alcatroz Azzura Neo V with dimensions of 30cm x 17cm x 35cm. Micro ATX. Currently one stock fan for the processor which is usually coupled for the H61 Motherboard, no extra case fan. It can fit case fans, Front and Rear support if optioned as well. (But mine don't, at least, yet)
My case is a top-mount PSU style.
Current PSU is just enough for the set but will be replacing it as well, said from the above replies there's a few choices already in mind with some few local, and some few well known brands.
 

anonath

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I see, and what kind of budget do you have in mind for the GPU?
Like earlier in the thread, at most if converted to USD, below $150, but much more preferred if it can be below $120, or (if possible) even better at around $60-80. I don't mind Used condition at all, as long as it works like it should, and fits with good amount of space left in the case.

Note: Reiterating, I don't use eBay or any other international-able online shop platforms since the shipping cost is overkill for my country with tax included, but my country's own online shopping platform has more than enough to find the same kind of stuff for the same price
 

Pyro

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I must have missed where you said that earlier, good to know. :)

Do you have a measurement of the case length from the PCI slots to whatever is on front of them? (case fans/case front). Nowhere on Alcatroz's website have I been able to find a maximum GPU length.
 

anonath

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I must have missed where you said that earlier, good to know. :)

Do you have a measurement of the case length from the PCI slots to whatever is on front of them? (case fans/case front). Nowhere on Alcatroz's website have I been able to find a maximum GPU length.
Yellow one right?

Whether yellow or white ones, counting from the end closest to rear, around 24 to 25 cm roughly to the case's frontmost, however due to the slots present for front fans if needed in future, that is down to around 1.5cm less. If I can remove that it will be counted out.

These are rough ish measurements from outside the case because I'm currently using the PC right now
 

anonath

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Redoing my search on the sizes, it seems these would be the only left from mentioned ones that'd fit in worst case scenario for the case's size.

GTX 1660, GTX 750, GTX 750Ti, RX 570

(I also considered GTX 745's taken from OEMs, seem fit.)

GTX 780 would not fit, GTX 1060 and RX 480 will technically fit but it will be tight in length regardless of fan case slots or not.

Though that's still 4-5 choices to look into... And many I don't know yet likely still. Haven't even talked of what brand of the GPU should be taken, such as Colorful, Sapphire, etc.
 

Pyro

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Took some time off this weekend, sorry for the delay.

I was looking into GTX 16 series cards as well, the 1660 seems to be a great price-to-performance for your specific system, that being said, a quality PSU from a name brand manufacturer is always a recommendation around here. (500W 80+ Gold unit from someone like Seasonic, Corsair, or EVGA).


Brands are highly subjective, most reputable brands carry the same 3-year limited warranty on parts and labor. I like ASUS personally, but I've also heard of people having good luck with MSI, EVGA, and GIGABYTE.
 

anonath

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Took some time off this weekend, sorry for the delay.

I was looking into GTX 16 series cards as well, the 1660 seems to be a great price-to-performance for your specific system, that being said, a quality PSU from a name brand manufacturer is always a recommendation around here. (500W 80+ Gold unit from someone like Seasonic, Corsair, or EVGA).


Brands are highly subjective, most reputable brands carry the same 3-year limited warranty on parts and labor. I like ASUS personally, but I've also heard of people having good luck with MSI, EVGA, and GIGABYTE.
Alright, I think I'll try out either local brands or the EVGA mentioned for the PSU. Not quite 80+ Gold but I think it'll be enough for my use.

As for, hmm, GTX 1660? Indeed, seems like it, though I'm still weighing it against the.... AMD offerings. Particularly, RX 580.

I reconsidered again the size measurements, since while the distance from the PCI slots to the front end is, well, that mentioned above, I forgot to account that the full length of a GPU extends to the back of the slot too by a bit, which means that I can actually fit everything mentioned so far just right except for 780.

By average price then from what I got searching around, the order from cheapest to most expensive in my country's market, GPUs mentioned will be:
GTX 745 (dirt cheap, but also dirt slower than the rest), RX 570, RX 480, GTX 750Ti, GTX 1060 (not far off from 1660 in performance.... according to benchmark), GTX 750 (the inferior one is more expensive for some reason?), GTX 1660, GTX 780
 

Pyro

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We always recommend Gold or higher rated units for units used for gaming or a dedicated GPU.

I'm not too familiar with AMD's offerings. this is an easy comparison/rundown.

As for prices, sometimes older cards can spice in price based on availability/seller, if it's not currently in production it's a gamble.
 

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A poor quality or too weak a PSU will prevent a GPU from giving its best performance, oh btw a junk PSU will also kill a GPU and if you are unlucky enough the rest of your hardware as well.

Do it right or don't do it all is always the best advice, take it or leave it.
 
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anonath

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We always recommend Gold or higher rated units for units used for gaming or a dedicated GPU.

I'm not too familiar with AMD's offerings. this is an easy comparison/rundown.

As for prices, sometimes older cards can spice in price based on availability/seller, if it's not currently in production it's a gamble.
Alright, I'll see what I can find
 

anonath

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A poor quality or too weak a PSU will prevent a GPU from giving its best performance, oh btw a junk PSU will also kill a GPU and if you are unlucky enough the rest of your hardware as well.

Do it right or don't do it all is always the best advice, take it or leave it.
I'd say yes to that, but I think the load presented might be just enough without needing near the best.

I'll try consulting the PSU choice that can balance out with my budget constraints with my local PC mechanic, he knows quite well especially from the previous issue I had with my PC as my first thread in PCHF.
 

anonath

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We always recommend Gold or higher rated units for units used for gaming or a dedicated GPU.

I'm not too familiar with AMD's offerings. this is an easy comparison/rundown.

As for prices, sometimes older cards can spice in price based on availability/seller, if it's not currently in production it's a gamble.
Oh and sorry, 2nd reply to the same message. I used the website indeed before to compare and contrast with the Nvidia ones mentioned so far. AMD has better performances at lower price, however I'm not quite adamant with AMD yet due to rumours of driver issues and larger power draw compared to green-side offerings of the same grade (meaning I can't get away with lower efficiency PSU as easily)
 

Pyro

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It's your pc, and your choice. :)

I will say, I've never seen someone overspend on a PSU that couldn't be utilized eventually, of all the components, a quality PSU should never truly been a regretful purchase.


I use Intel + Nvidia, it has worked fairly well for me, but I know people who use all AMD systems for the raw performance/OC'd performance they can achieve. Each is capable of giving the user a solid experience with no tinkering necessary, in the same price range you're essentially picking a color and some minor QOL things.


Ultimately I think you'd be okay with either/any GPU, anything is better than nothing.
 
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