Hello guys, so lately i seem to have lost the favor of the Computer Gods.
Here's my tale:
Recently i opened two threads here, this would be the third.
On the first one i was asking for help due to GPU problems, i had an old 'Sapphire Radeon HD 5850' and i started to get bad performance and crashes, i started to notice it on CSGO, but it was especially bad on Medieval 2, people talked about CPU problems, maybe hard-drive problems, but i soon discovered it was indeed the GPU, since it died completely not even a week after (PC wouldn't even turn on if it was installed), so i believed this was a conclusion to my thread, my problem had been "solved"
This is when i decided to buy a new GPU, i opted for an RX560 since at the time GPU prices were high and it was the best cost-benefit where i lived, after it arrived, i hooked it to my PC and it was under-performing BADLY, thus i opened a new thread, thinking perhaps there was something else broken in the computer after all, or maybe it was the Card itself? I don't know, but what i do know is that after not receiving a reply on this, and other forums, and after weeks of not finding a solution, i decided to just retire my old system, since it was really old, perhaps my new graphics card would work fine on a new system...
It had an FX6100 3.3GHz, 2x4gb 1333MHz DDR3 Memory, Mobo was an Asus M5A78L-M, 430w C3Tech PSU, Seagate 1TB 3gb/s 5400RPM HDD and the defective HD 5850 that was replaced with an RX560.
I went ahead and bought myself the following system:
Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz CPU
Asus B-350M Prime MOBO
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2400MHz RAM
Seagate 1TB 7200RPM 6GB/S HDD
Corsair TX550 550w 80+ Gold PSU
I then strapped a 140mm fan and the RX560 i already had to this new system, i know it isn't the best system ever, but i expect to be able to play most games at High with at least 60fps, i know it wouldn't be possible at 1080p, but i play at 1366x768, so i didn't expect any problems.
To my surprise, the GPU was still under-performing, and i concluded it must have been the problem, and promptly sent it back to the vendor and asked for my money back, which they obliged after a good 3 weeks of waiting.
I got very excited, because while i waited almost a month to be able to buy a new Graphics Card, GPU prices dropped by almost 1/3 of their prices, and i could afford a more beefy Graphics Card, i ended up getting a GTX 1060 6GB and also another 8GB RAM stick.
This is where i lost all hope, GTX 1060 is better than the RX560, obviously, but not by a lot, it is ALSO under-performing, which leads me to believe that maybe the RX560 wasn't defective after all, maybe it was my CPU, maybe it was my RAM, my MOBO, i don't know, i've spent hours trying to find the source of the problem and troubleshoot it, to no avail. Now i have spent about $1500 on this system and i have no interest in even booting it up due to this problem.
Things that i notice while troubleshooting which led me to believe the CPU is the culprit:
Box states it's clock to be 3.2GHz with a MAX 3.4GHz 'Turbo Clock', it was set to 3.8GHz on the BIOS, which was making it crash when it's usage came close to 90%, happened to cause a lot of freezing on Witcher 3, crashing not only the game, but also the whole system, had to restart it manually. This was fixed when i set the CPU to work at 3.2GHz, and instead of losing performance for this, i seemed to gain a few FPS. Though Witcher 3 still runs at around 75fps, which is less than this system should be able to handle at 1080p.
CSGO, a very CPU-heavy game, has no change in performance if i set it to Very Low with no filters or Ultra with AA, it also saw no change in performance between the RX560 and the GTX1060, which makes me believe it is the CPU that isn't handling it properly.
Fallout 4, another game that is very CPU intensive, goes below 30fps in CPU intensive areas, which is completely unacceptable for this system at 768p, GPU intensive moments, such as massive explosions and big firefights are handled well, which again leads me to believe the CPU is at fault.
Skyrim with the RX560 was completely ridiculous, heavily populated areas had an average of 15fps, when even my old FX6100+HD5850 combo could easily handle these situations at 40+ FPS, haven't been able to test with the GTX1060 yet, but i don't expect a difference since it is obvious a CPU problem in this case.
Things that make me think it could be RAM related:
When i tested my RAM sticks separate, i realized one of them would get significantly less FPS on Witcher 3, one of them would get 40~70fps, the other would get 50~90fps, and using them both on dual channel does 65~120, i then went into the BIOS and realized one of them is working at 2133MHz, when it's stated both in the box and the stick itself that it's 2400MHz, and for the life of me i can't force it to work at 2400MHz, digging deeper i realized they are NOT the same model.
One is a 'Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 2400Mhz DDR4 CMK8GX4M1D2400C14' with a CAS Latency of '14' and timing of '14-16-16-31' This is the one that's working at 2133MHz and has worse performance.
The other a 'Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 2400Mhz DDR4 CMK8GX4M1A2400C16' with a CAS Latency of '16' and timing of '16-16-16-39' This one that's working as it should and has better performance.
Dual-Channel seems to be a problem here too, as playing Witcher 3 with both sticks on causes constant crashes, and playing it with a single stick, no matter which one, produces no crashes.
I now no longer have any evidence or reason to believe that the GPU is the problem.
I have no evidence or reason to believe that the PSU is the problem.
I have no evidence that the MOBO is the problem.
I have no evidence that the HDD is the problem.
I believe it is either the CPU, the RAM or both, but i have no idea what to do, is there anything i could do to fix this? Is there at least some way to know for sure that it's these parts, since i have already replaced an entire system and a brand new graphics card that might not have been defective at all.
Here's the Speccy link:
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/SjpYKxUvKc7eiEONjlKtDf5
Thanks in advance.
Here's my tale:
Recently i opened two threads here, this would be the third.
On the first one i was asking for help due to GPU problems, i had an old 'Sapphire Radeon HD 5850' and i started to get bad performance and crashes, i started to notice it on CSGO, but it was especially bad on Medieval 2, people talked about CPU problems, maybe hard-drive problems, but i soon discovered it was indeed the GPU, since it died completely not even a week after (PC wouldn't even turn on if it was installed), so i believed this was a conclusion to my thread, my problem had been "solved"
This is when i decided to buy a new GPU, i opted for an RX560 since at the time GPU prices were high and it was the best cost-benefit where i lived, after it arrived, i hooked it to my PC and it was under-performing BADLY, thus i opened a new thread, thinking perhaps there was something else broken in the computer after all, or maybe it was the Card itself? I don't know, but what i do know is that after not receiving a reply on this, and other forums, and after weeks of not finding a solution, i decided to just retire my old system, since it was really old, perhaps my new graphics card would work fine on a new system...
It had an FX6100 3.3GHz, 2x4gb 1333MHz DDR3 Memory, Mobo was an Asus M5A78L-M, 430w C3Tech PSU, Seagate 1TB 3gb/s 5400RPM HDD and the defective HD 5850 that was replaced with an RX560.
I went ahead and bought myself the following system:
Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz CPU
Asus B-350M Prime MOBO
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 2400MHz RAM
Seagate 1TB 7200RPM 6GB/S HDD
Corsair TX550 550w 80+ Gold PSU
I then strapped a 140mm fan and the RX560 i already had to this new system, i know it isn't the best system ever, but i expect to be able to play most games at High with at least 60fps, i know it wouldn't be possible at 1080p, but i play at 1366x768, so i didn't expect any problems.
To my surprise, the GPU was still under-performing, and i concluded it must have been the problem, and promptly sent it back to the vendor and asked for my money back, which they obliged after a good 3 weeks of waiting.
I got very excited, because while i waited almost a month to be able to buy a new Graphics Card, GPU prices dropped by almost 1/3 of their prices, and i could afford a more beefy Graphics Card, i ended up getting a GTX 1060 6GB and also another 8GB RAM stick.
This is where i lost all hope, GTX 1060 is better than the RX560, obviously, but not by a lot, it is ALSO under-performing, which leads me to believe that maybe the RX560 wasn't defective after all, maybe it was my CPU, maybe it was my RAM, my MOBO, i don't know, i've spent hours trying to find the source of the problem and troubleshoot it, to no avail. Now i have spent about $1500 on this system and i have no interest in even booting it up due to this problem.
Things that i notice while troubleshooting which led me to believe the CPU is the culprit:
Box states it's clock to be 3.2GHz with a MAX 3.4GHz 'Turbo Clock', it was set to 3.8GHz on the BIOS, which was making it crash when it's usage came close to 90%, happened to cause a lot of freezing on Witcher 3, crashing not only the game, but also the whole system, had to restart it manually. This was fixed when i set the CPU to work at 3.2GHz, and instead of losing performance for this, i seemed to gain a few FPS. Though Witcher 3 still runs at around 75fps, which is less than this system should be able to handle at 1080p.
CSGO, a very CPU-heavy game, has no change in performance if i set it to Very Low with no filters or Ultra with AA, it also saw no change in performance between the RX560 and the GTX1060, which makes me believe it is the CPU that isn't handling it properly.
Fallout 4, another game that is very CPU intensive, goes below 30fps in CPU intensive areas, which is completely unacceptable for this system at 768p, GPU intensive moments, such as massive explosions and big firefights are handled well, which again leads me to believe the CPU is at fault.
Skyrim with the RX560 was completely ridiculous, heavily populated areas had an average of 15fps, when even my old FX6100+HD5850 combo could easily handle these situations at 40+ FPS, haven't been able to test with the GTX1060 yet, but i don't expect a difference since it is obvious a CPU problem in this case.
Things that make me think it could be RAM related:
When i tested my RAM sticks separate, i realized one of them would get significantly less FPS on Witcher 3, one of them would get 40~70fps, the other would get 50~90fps, and using them both on dual channel does 65~120, i then went into the BIOS and realized one of them is working at 2133MHz, when it's stated both in the box and the stick itself that it's 2400MHz, and for the life of me i can't force it to work at 2400MHz, digging deeper i realized they are NOT the same model.
One is a 'Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 2400Mhz DDR4 CMK8GX4M1D2400C14' with a CAS Latency of '14' and timing of '14-16-16-31' This is the one that's working at 2133MHz and has worse performance.
The other a 'Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 2400Mhz DDR4 CMK8GX4M1A2400C16' with a CAS Latency of '16' and timing of '16-16-16-39' This one that's working as it should and has better performance.
Dual-Channel seems to be a problem here too, as playing Witcher 3 with both sticks on causes constant crashes, and playing it with a single stick, no matter which one, produces no crashes.
I now no longer have any evidence or reason to believe that the GPU is the problem.
I have no evidence or reason to believe that the PSU is the problem.
I have no evidence that the MOBO is the problem.
I have no evidence that the HDD is the problem.
I believe it is either the CPU, the RAM or both, but i have no idea what to do, is there anything i could do to fix this? Is there at least some way to know for sure that it's these parts, since i have already replaced an entire system and a brand new graphics card that might not have been defective at all.
Here's the Speccy link:
http://speccy.piriform.com/results/SjpYKxUvKc7eiEONjlKtDf5
Thanks in advance.