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Solved CPU Temp monitoring question

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UKFROG

UKFROG

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Hi everyone.

I need help... I am confused with different readings from monitoring my CPU temp.

I tried to find an answer in various forums but only got more confused, can someone explain in a simple way the difference in the following please ?

HWINFO64 gives me these readings:

(CPU Section) CPU [#0]: AMD Athlon X4 880k
CPU package (TSI) 73 degrees (very unstable readings jumping from anything between 50 to 90 degrees on some occasions)

(MB section) Asus A88XM-PLUS
CPU 40 degrees (stable slow increase, degrease (36-37 in total idle mode)
CPU and motherboard.jpg


My AMD AI suite III gives me the same as HWINFO on the MB reading (40 at the moment of writing this (Semi-idle state, ie. browser open))

Asus CPU AI suite.jpg


If I use Speccy I get an other very high erratic reading between 60 to 95 degrees.

Speccy data.jpg


What should I make of this and what is the correct temp for my CPU ?

Can anyone clarify this for me pls?
 
#2
Hello UKFROG,

The two most reliable sources of such info are the BIOS when the computer is idle and any monitoring software that is specific to the MB when booted into Windows, ASUS AI Suite in this instance.

In addition to the above, Speccy offers a guide as to what the readings are whereas HWMonitor being a dedicated monitoring program is more accurate.
 
#3
phillpower2 said:
Hello UKFROG,

The two most reliable sources of such info are the BIOS when the computer is idle and any monitoring software that is specific to the MB when booted into Windows, ASUS AI Suite in this instance.

In addition to the above, Speccy offers a guide as to what the readings are whereas HWMonitor being a dedicated monitoring program is more accurate.
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Hi Phil

I did correspond on HWINFO Forum and came to the same conclusions.

I appears that HW is the closest I get compared to the Asus suite and is consistent with the bios readings also.

I really just wanted second opinion to be sure I used the correct info, The Speccy ready was rather scary and made me wonder if my PCU cooler wasn't failing, I just fitted a new one just in case. I guess the old one wasn't that bad after all. :unsure:

Thank you for your response. Now I just need to setup my graphics correctly for best gaming performance in Red Dead. :giggle:
Any experience in that field ? My problem being the CPU not being a gaming CPU and it bottlenecks.
 
#4
Hello UKFROG,

Your CPU is not too bad performance wise and if anything is going to cause a bottleneck it will be your RAM, your CPU needs 2133MHz for best performance whereas your Speccy pic shows that your RAM is only 1600MHz, CPU specs here

You are welcome btw :)
 
#5
Tks Phil,
I saw the CPU is running at >< 1700MHz. I wasn't sure if or how I could push it to 2100MHz without it overheating.
As for the RAM, :cry: I know but on the bright side, I have 16GB of it ... ;), same with that, not sure if I can push on the Frequency of the RAM to speed it up a little ?
Now at least my CPU temp is ok, since I changed the AMD stock cooler for the Arctic Freezer, the CPU doesn't go over the mid 60's.
I could try and push things a little more I guess.

Thanks again for your advice Phil.
 
#6
CPU is 1700MHz at idle and 4.2MHz under full load so your 1600MHz RAM is hanging on to the seat of your trousers :D

I don`t have anything to do with OCing other that to help folk pick up the pieces when things go pear shaped, no point in pushing your CPU any further than what it is capable of in any event as the slower RAM will end up causing blue or black screens on you.

Do you have a link to your RAM so we can take a look at the specs.
 
#7
I had the first 8gb stick with the motherboard, it's a standard Crucial DDR3 1600MHz, the second I got from Ebay/Chinese seller, respecting the specs of the original Crucial RAM that was installed. ;-)

Here is the DATA I got from my PC.
1st from HWinfo

RAM Spec.jpg


2nd from Speccy

Speccy RAM Data.jpg


Unfortunately no link to venders page for more specs...
 
#8
Go into your Speccy report not the log as is shown above, where you see the details for the original RAM copy/paste the Part number info for us, it will look something along the lines of Part Number: F4-3600C16-16GVKC
 
#9
Is this what you are after ?

Slot #1
Type DDR3
Size 8192 MBytes
Manufacturer Crucial Technology
Max Bandwidth PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
Part Number CT102464BD160B.M16
Serial Number 3762151183
Week/year 45 / 16
Timing table
JEDEC #1
Frequency 381.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 5
RAS# Precharge 5
tRAS 14
tRC 19
Voltage 1.350 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 16
tRC 22
Voltage 1.350 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 19
tRC 26
Voltage 1.350 V
JEDEC #4
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.350 V
JEDEC #5
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 24
tRC 33
Voltage 1.350 V
JEDEC #6
Frequency 761.9 MHz
CAS# Latency 10.0
RAS# To CAS# 10
RAS# Precharge 10
tRAS 27
tRC 37
Voltage 1.350 V
JEDEC #7
Frequency 800.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 11.0
RAS# To CAS# 11
RAS# Precharge 11
tRAS 28
tRC 39
Voltage 1.350 V


Slot #2
Type DDR3
Size 8192 MBytes
Manufacturer Unknown
Max Bandwidth PC3-12800 (800 MHz)
Week/year 16 / 19
Timing table
JEDEC #1
Frequency 457.1 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 16
tRC 22
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 533.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 7.0
RAS# To CAS# 7
RAS# Precharge 7
tRAS 19
tRC 26
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 609.5 MHz
CAS# Latency 8.0
RAS# To CAS# 8
RAS# Precharge 8
tRAS 22
tRC 30
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #4
Frequency 685.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 9.0
RAS# To CAS# 9
RAS# Precharge 9
tRAS 24
tRC 33
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #5
Frequency 761.9 MHz
CAS# Latency 10.0
RAS# To CAS# 10
RAS# Precharge 10
tRAS 27
tRC 37
Voltage 1.500 V
JEDEC #6
Frequency 800.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 11.0
RAS# To CAS# 11
RAS# Precharge 11
tRAS 28
tRC 39
Voltage 1.500


Slot #2 has no part number, unsurprisingly...
 
#10
That's it (y)

Was looking to see if the RAM could be OCd but alas it can`t and 1600MHz is the max.

You may wish to check your voltages in the BIOS, your RAM should only be getting 1.35V as per the specs here but noticed before the ASUS screenshot in your OP shows the DRAM voltage as 1.650V so small wonder things were getting toasty in there, your second stick of RAM btw does not have matching spec with the most notable being that it is 1.5V, this may cause a problem if you correct the RAM voltage to 1.35V for the Crucial stick.
 
#12
Your RAM should not be any higher that the voltage specified by Crucial.

Electricity creates heat which is the bane of all things hardware and if you combine heat with electricity even short term you will kill your hardware, why do you think that overclockers have liquid cooling.
 
#14
Your PC so your choice and I for my part have brought the voltage to your attention, consider though that 1.35V is the correct voltage for both the Crucial RAM and the motherboard whereas the Chinese imported RAM that has been added is the only one of the three that wants 1.5V.
 
#16
Sorry but must have missed that question :unsure:

You made a statement in your reply #13 as I see it;

UKFROG said:
Ok, but underclocking the slot #2 at 1.35v will cause issues won't it ?
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As was said it is your PC so do as you see fit, leave things as they are or try 1.35V, we only advise here not give orders.

Just a fyi, you will not be underclocking anything by setting the RAM voltage to 1.35V, the Chinese RAM is the foreign body here and 1.35V is the correct voltage for your Crucial RAM and motherboard as was said but one post ago.

Being that your initial question has been answered this thread will now be marked as solved, it has already wandered too far off topic.
 
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