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Solved (Build Help) Stuck on which MOBO I should buy + other help with this i9-13900K & 4090 build?

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TLDR: I am in need of a good MOBO for this build! Here are some of my choices for a MOBO I've narrowed it down to. Opinions on the build are also welcome, but I am definitely set on an i9-13900K CPU & 4090 GPU build.
I'm very new to PC hardware, but over the last few weeks, I've been doing a LOT of research into different hardware parts. I'm fairly certain that I have finally figured out a good build for me. I'm having Micro Center build the PC for me & I'm buying all of the parts (sorry, I am NOT confident in myself to build a PC!)
Here is my current build (with a motherboard not yet chosen!)
You're welcome to share opinions on this build, in fact, it would VERY much be appreciated!! (Opinions compatibility-wise & performance-wise!)
I'm using this build for an all around computer and have strictly decided to go for an i9-13900K/4090 build.
My main question is: which of these DDR5/Z790 motherboards should I buy, in your opinion (and/or which would fit with my build) and which would be the best value overall for my setup?
Here's a list of the motherboards I've narrowed my choices to!
I'm also open to hearing opinions on other motherboards, but I really don't want to go for a Z690...
 
Hello

This help's. What are you planning to use the pc for?
Hi! I just want a really good build, I want to future proof the build. It's for gaming and also just doing lots of tasks. I know for sure I want to go with the i9-13900K and also the 4090. Mainly, I just don't know if some of the components are good enough and definitely need a motherboard recommendation for sure
 
I've had good luck with ASUS' ROG STRIX products in the past, and their warranty has been good to me if I've had any issues.

I know some people have good luck with MSI, and Gigabyte is well liked as well, you can't really go wrong with any of them, it's just picking your favorite company/price-point.


CPU/GPU:
Sounds like you're confident with your choices, haven't looked into Corsair's coolers much, but it looks like your case has pretty good AIO support.


PSU:
Your PSU is perfect, over your needs and a 10-year warranty, I couldn't recommend better.


Motherboard requirements:
For what you're building, as long as it supports PCIe 4.0, and 5600MHz DDR5 ram, most everything else should be fine.

Keep in mind that the board layout may play into what you can and can't do.

If you have an especially large GPU (which the 40-series is) it will cover things around the PCIe x16 slots, whether this is RGB connectors, USB-C, etc.


Memory:
You have 2x 32GB memory sticks, while 64GB is unnecessary for gaming at the current point in time, if you're insistent on doing it I would recommend a 4x16GB kit, such as this one.


Chassis fans:
I'd look into Noctua fans, they're really robust units and offer quieter fans (which I prefer). Regardless of what brand you choose, make sure you pick 4-pin PWM connectors, this will gradually ramp them up as needed.

Another thing about fans, less fans of a larger size is usually better than more fans of a smaller size in terms of sound. I prefer quieter systems so this may depend on if you want the maximum cooling or something easier on the ears.


Storage:
One final note, I personally prefer Samsung drives/SSDs, they've proven to be some of the best. Might be worth considering.

If you don't plan on bulk video/render storage you probably don't need 6TB of SSD storage.




As far as value, everything is overkill, I wouldn't call this 'future proofing' so much as overbuying on a first PC - which is okay. :)

Windows 11 Pro doesn't offer the home user much utility as opposed to Home editions. It's another place you could save some money.
 
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I've had good luck with ASUS' ROG STRIX products in the past, and their warranty has been good to me if I've had any issues.

I know some people have good luck with MSI, and Gigabyte is well liked as well, you can't really go wrong with any of them, it's just picking your favorite company/price-point.


CPU/GPU:
Sounds like you're confident with your choices, haven't looked into Corsair's coolers much, but it looks like your case has pretty good AIO support.


PSU:
Your PSU is perfect, over your needs and a 10-year warranty, I couldn't recommend better.


Motherboard requirements:
For what you're building, as long as it supports PCIe 4.0, and 5600MHz DDR5 ram, most everything else should be fine.

Keep in mind that the board layout may play into what you can and can't do.

If you have an especially large GPU (which the 40-series is) it will cover things around the PCIe x16 slots, whether this is RGB connectors, USB-C, etc.


Memory:
You have 2x 32GB memory sticks, while 64GB is unnecessary for gaming at the current point in time, if you're insistent on doing it I would recommend a 4x16GB kit, such as this one.


Chassis fans:
I'd look into Noctua fans, they're really robust units and offer quieter fans (which I prefer). Regardless of what brand you choose, make sure you pick 4-pin PWM connectors, this will gradually ramp them up as needed.

Another thing about fans, less fans of a larger size is usually better than more fans of a smaller size in terms of sound. I prefer quieter systems so this may depend on if you want the maximum cooling or something easier on the ears.


Storage:
One final note, I personally prefer Samsung drives/SSDs, they've proven to be some of the best. Might be worth considering.

If you don't plan on bulk video/render storage you probably don't need 6TB of SSD storage.




As far as value, everything is overkill, I wouldn't call this 'future proofing' so much as overbuying on a first PC - which is okay. :)

Windows 11 Pro doesn't offer the home user much utility as opposed to Home editions. It's another place you could save some money.
I cannot thank you enough for this reply. NO ONE has ever been this thorough and given me an explanation on my whole build like this. I am very very grateful. A few follow up questions, if I may?


1) So I should most likely go with the ASUS ROG STRIX motherboard? That's actually exactly what I was going to do... either that one or possibly the GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS ELITE since that one is fairly cheap and the #1 most popular motherboard on Newegg!


2) When you said, "Keep in mind that the board layout may play into what you can and can't do" especially for the 4090, what exactly do you mean? Should the ASUS ROG STRIX be fine with it or?


3) Why go for the 4x16GB memory instead of the 2x32GB memory?


4) For fans with "4-pin PWM connectors" does this one have 4-pin? It says that PWM is supported with these, so I'm guessing I'm okay? I was originally going to go for no RGB, but the second half of me told me to do it, since I could always turn it off anyways. I just think the "fish tank" style build that I'm going for would be cool to light up to see all the different hardware parts. But yeah, it's going to be bad if they're loud fans :confused:!!!


4.5) I was also going to go for larger fans, but I am fairly sure they wouldn't fit my case all too good... and people said the more airflow the better, since I have 7x120mm fans -- I feel as if this would definitely help out the CPU and GPU since they run HOT!


5) I know I keep saying this, but I legit was going to go with a Samsung SSD but then after hours of research I figured the Seagate FireCuda 530 was like one of the best SSDs you can get (maybe I am wrong?) & the second SSD option was just for extra storage for a cheaper price, if I remember correctly. I know the Samsung 990 Pro is really good too, though.


6) This isn't my first PC, but it's the first custom PC that I'm having someone build for me... so when you say everything is overkill, and that I'm overspending, you're probably right... but do you think that it's a good idea, in your honest opinion?


7) LAST QUESTION -- I promise (lol) is there anything else you could tell me that might save me some hassle? For instance, I'm a BIT worried that Micro Center might mess up something on the build, and it all goes downhill from there & I wouldn't be able to troubleshoot the problem because I'm not familiar with hardware... should I trust them to be able to handle the task of building this thing?


SORRY FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS! I just want to say, you're freaking awesome and thank you for spending so much time giving your support and opinions. I will try not to bother you too much any more with it! I'm just worried overall since this is going to be around $5,000, which is SO much money!!
 
1. I like ASUS, their products have worked for me and their CS has treated me well when I've needed support, all of these products should have a 3-year warranty or something of the sort, they're going to be arguably indistinguishable other than brand, it's just about buying what makes you feel good.


2. Here's the layout for the ASUS Z790 board:
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Around the PCIe slots (the horizontal rectangles under the CPU) you may find that having a bigger GPU can cause things around (usually under) the PCIe slots to be covered and inaccessible. This doesn't look to be as big of an issue with your board as it can be with others, but it's something important to note if you look at other boards.


3. I should specify on ram, if I were buying that much and had a good idea that I wouldn't have to upgrade for a long while, I would split it up across multiple sticks. More sticks = more heatsinks and a more divided workload. Whether there's any actual performance difference in doing so seems a bit debated, but that's my thoughts on the matter. However- if you plan on upgrading your ram in the foreseeable future, 2 sticks would make it much easier to do so.


4. There are two types of fans, 3-pin (non-pwm) and 4-pin (pwm). PWM means that the power pulses to the fans and allows it to vary speeds as the load changes. Your motherboard has PWM so I would make sure you fans do as well. The RGB part of the fans should be irregardless of PWM, there may be a slight performance difference between RGB and non-RGB but having your PC look the way you want it to is important! (Your original fans are 4-pin PWM)


4.5 I'm unsure the difference between 7 vs. 5/6 fans performance or noise wise since I don't know the specifics on your case, but I can't fault you for making sure the CPU and GPU stay cool, that's very important. :)


5. This is one more area you'll have to make a decision you feel good about. I've ran Samsung SSDs for the last couple years and never looked back, but I've had other products that worked fine. It does appear that the 990-Pro is one of the best on the market currently.


6. This is absolutely overkill, a 13th gen i9 and a 4090 cost more than most computers I've ever known. Is that good? - That depends, I wouldn't advise you purchase this machine if you're having to skip meals or miss rent payments, but if you have spare cash and want a beast of a machine? Something like this is most people's dream machine, if you can afford it - enjoy it!


7. The only way to be certain everything is done to your liking would be to do it yourself. The people working at Microcenter probably have experience doing this sort of thing, but their choices may be different from yours, it's like hiring somebody to work on your car. If they screw something up I'd have a hard time imagining that they couldn't or wouldn't fix it after spending so much money with them, but you'll have to look at your rights as a customer of their building services. I can't tell you if you should or shouldn't trust them, I can only tell you that the only person who can do it exactly the way you want it done-is you!


No need to apologize, don't ever be afraid to ask questions! Everyone here from the 20-year veterans to the new guys started by asking questions and looking things up, this is how we learn. It's completely rational to be apprehensive with so much money on the table, just take things slowly and don't rush into any impulsive decisions- those are better when they're not wallet breaking.

If you have more questions feel free to rattle them off, if I can't answer then I'm sure one of the other helpers around here will know something about it.
 
Good reviews and price.

Amazon price and reviews here

Fwiw, I too am a fan of ASUS MBs but can`t be doing with the Armoury Crate nonsense.
Armoury Crate is 'helpful'-esque, but they need to make the choice more apparent, it can be disabled in the BIOS IIRC.
Oh wow! I would NOT want any bloatware on my new PC, nooo thank you. That's cool that you can disable it. Once you disable it inside of Bios (is this how to do it?) -- can it be uninstalled using this method? After this, hopefully everything is good after that and I needn't ever worry about Armory Crate again?
 
You could absolutely uninstall it.

I find it a bit annoying, but I personally keep it around since it makes it easier on me to install updates and control the lighting on my ASUS products - but that's something you'll have to assess if you get it. It is a "personal computer" after all. :)
 
I ultimately ended up going for the ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-E Gaming, but was debating between that and the Gigabyte one you recommended because it was cheap. I figured I might as well go the extra mile on the ASUS one. Thank you both so much, again. I could NOT have done this without you guys 😄! Too many decisions with so much money...
 
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A good choice and made with sound reasoning (y)

You have an awesome build there - enjoy :)

You are welcome from all at PCHF and thanks for letting us know that you no longer required assistance.
 
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